(And so the Dr. 58 sessions continue ...)
Question: Dr. 58, we have so many questions for you. There is so much here that does not seem to make sense to us. We think it is strange that you did not know that the Graditch Chax was called the Mississippi River here in our Minnesota, yet you use the term Minnesota. Can you explain?
ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
Question: Well, it just seems that if you would know one term you would know the other.
ANSWER: YOU CALL IT MISSISSIPPI, NOT ME.
Question: Well …. Yes … but can you tell us about the origin of the word Minnesota? I mean, how did it get it’s name? In our world, it is roughly a Native American term that means “Land of Sky Blue Water.” This would suggest that it was named by those who knew it and lived there, and would suggest the same for your world, do you see what we mean? How could you know it is called Minnesota?
ANSWER: THE NAME WAS DIVINED BY THE SORCERER BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.
Question: Eeeoooww! We’re almost sorry we asked. Ben Franklin -- sorcerer! He was a sorcerer in your world?
ANSWER: FRANKLIN WIELDED THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS, AND THROUGH IT DIVINED THE NAME MINNESOTA.
Question: Wow! We consider Benjamin Franklin to be one of the greatest Americans, one of the Founding Fathers of our country. He was a genius, a scientist, yes, but not a sorcerer. Is this not the case in your world?
ANSWER: FRANKLIN WAS ORIGINALLY AN IMPORTANT AMERICAN FOUNDER, BUT WAS SEDUCED BY THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS, AND LATER EXECUTED.
Question: Ahhhh! Tell us more about this! First, what is this Endergonic Gnosis?
ANSWER: A SYSTEM OF THE ANCIENTS, THE PYRAMID BUILDERS OF THE AMERICAS. THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS COULD DIVINE, AND DO OTHER THINGS. IT WAS BANNED AS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS,FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
Question: Jeepers. Well, what exactly was this system, this Endergonic Gnosis?
ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
Question: Well was it a set of text, or a machine, or some kind of ancient relic, or all of the above, or what?
ANSWER: LITTLE IS KNOWN BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE OF IT HAS LONG BEEN SUPPRESSED. IT WAS POWERFUL. ONE ASPECT OF IT WAS A LARGE STONE CIRCLE WITH A DEPICTION OF THE SUN AT THE CENTER.
Question: How did Benjamin Franklin obtain the Endergonic Gnosis?
ANSWER: HE BECAME FASCINATED WITH STRANGE AND FANTASTIC TALES OF A LAND SAID TO BE DEEP IN THE INTERIOR OF THE CONTINENT. IT WAS PROBABLY MINNESOTA. IT WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TO BE SUPERSTITION OF THE NATIVES.
Question: But Franklin suspected there might be something more to it?
ANSWER: YES. FRANKLIN TRAVELED WEST INTO THE WILDERNESS AND EMERGED YEARS LATER WITH THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS.
Question: Hmmm. That sounds an awful lot like Father Vromin’s story.
ANSWER: IT IS THE STORY OF MORE THAN ONE.
Question: Well, anyway, I’m guessing then that Franklin began messing around with the Endergonic Gnosis, and thus began earning the reputation of a sorcerer. Am I on track here?
ANSWER: YES. FRANKLIN LEARNED TO MANIPULATE ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY FROM THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS. HE COMMANDED LIGHTENING. HE BECAME DANGEROUS AND INSANE.
Question: Well, what did he do with this energy? In our world, Franklin is revered as a great scientists and statesman who discovered some of the first principles of electricity by his study of lightening. But he never did anything dangerous.
ANSWER: AT FIRST HE WAS MUCH HONORED. BUT HIS WORK WITH THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS BECAME MORE FRIGHTENING. HE DESTROYED NEW AMSTERDAM WITH ELECTRICAL CONCUSSION FLAME. HE KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. A HUGE UNDERSEA CRATER STILL EXISTS.
Question: Why did he do that? Was he trying to take over the country, or become some kind of all powerful ruler, or something like that?
ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX. THE OFFICIAL STORY RULES THE DAY.
Question: The official story? Is there another version?
ANSWER: OF COURSE. THE UNDERGROUND. THEY BELIEVE FRANKLIN WAS UNFAIRLY PERSECUTED. HE IS A HERO TO THE SOCMALS. THE ENDERGONIC GNOSIS WAS SUPPRESSED BY ORDER OF THE FIRST IMPERATOR.
Question: Who are the Socmals?
ANSWER: SOCIAL MALCONTENTS.
Question: These are antigovernment people, nonconformists, those that didn’t like the official government and the system?
ANSWER: YES.
Question: Do the Socmals still exist in your time?
ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.
Question: Who is this First Imperator you speak of?
ANSWER: THE FIRST IMPERATOR OF THE UNITED STATES.
Question: We call our leader the President of the United States. The first President was George Washington. Was he your First Imperator?
ANSWER: THE FIRST IMPERATOR WAS XANDER HAMILTON. GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS A GREAT MILITARY LEADER.
Question: Wow. Did you mean Alexander Hamilton?
ANSWER: XANDER.
Question: Do you still call the top guy of the American government The Imperator?
ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.
Question: Who is the current Imperator there in your year of 1951?
ANSWER: RIGGOLD BANNON
Question: Oh brother. Your every answer begs another 10 questions. It’s so easy to get pulled into many directions. But let’s go back to how Minnesota got its name. You say Franklin somehow got it from the Endergonic Gnosis?
ANSWER: FRANKLIN WAS A GREAT COMMUNICATOR. HE PUBLISHED MANY ROLL-UPS THAT WERE WIDELY READ. HE SPOKE OF THE MAGICAL LAND OFTEN. HE CALLED IT MINNESOTA. THIS WAS POPULAR AT FIRST. BUT FRANKLIN GREW IN THE POWER OF THE GNOSIS AND WAS DECLARED SOCIAL MALCONTENT.
Question: But now the name Minnesota cannot be used or spoken officially, or in public?
ANSWER: NO. IT IS SOCMAL TO SPEAK IT.
Question: Is it known if Franklin himself ever entered Minnesota?
ANSWER: I DON‘T KNOW.
Question: What is the origin of the name Graditch Chax?
ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.
Question: How was Franklin executed?
ANSWER: HANGED.
Question: Well, if he wielded the incredible power of the Endergonic Gnosis, and if he could zap entire cities with concussion electricity, how did they ever subdue him?
ANSWER: LIKE I SAID, IT’S THE OFFICIAL VERSION.
Question: So you are saying that Franklin may never have been brought to heel by the authorities?
ANSWER: THERE ARE MANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE SOCMALS BELIEVE HE ESCAPED AND DISAPPEARED INTO MINNESOTA. EITHER WAY HE WAS GONE.
Question: Dr. 58, you seem like someone who would be Socmal. Are you?
ANSWER: NO. I DECLARED 5-YEAR UNCOP AT AGE 16, AS WAS MY RIGHT.
Question: What is Uncop?
ANSWER: UNCOOPERATIVE.
Question: Uncooperative with your government or society? How is that different from being Socmal?
ANSWER: UNCOP IS LEGAL FOR FIVE YEARS. THEN YOU MUST DECLARE.
Question: What do you declare?
ANSWER: MAN THING. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE, SEE THEE UP SEE THEE DOONE. MAN THING, SEE THEE UP SEE THEE DOONE.
Question: What??????????????
ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE. SEE THREE UP, SEE THEE DOONE. BEHOLD, MAN THING. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE ….
Question: Dr. 58!! What the hell are you talking about??????!!!!!!!!!
ANSWER: HEED, MAN THING. SEE THEE UP SEE THEE DOONE. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE …..
(Note: Suddenly, the only thing that would come across the board was this cryptic message over and over again. For every question, the only answer was someone or some thing referring to us as “Man Thing” and then saying “See thee up, see thee doone” over and over again.
Because of this jarring shift in tone, and total irrelevancy of the flow of conversation with Dr. 58, we speculated that some other Ouija entity had interrupted or “contaminated” our session. But who, what and why? Of course, it is extremely difficult to know.
Something like this is not unprecedented in my experience. Occasionally, troublesome, pesky sprites or beings will horn in and try to grab our attention. It’s not always a bad thing, as in the case of Aimee, the lonely little girl who had drowned and who wanted to speak with us. We always loved Aimee, and were delighted when she horned in. As some of you here have read in my other transcripts, we finally got MOMMY to help Amiee get to a better place.
Anyway, we didn’t want to transcribe the phrase “See thee up, see three down…” endlessly, so we endeavored to get rid of who or what ever this thing was).
Question: To the entity that is referring to us as ‘Man Thing’ please state your message. What is that you want?
ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE …. (repeat).
Question: !!!!! Shut-uuuuup !!!!!! Tell us something that makes sense or get lost!
ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE DOONE …. (repeat).
Question: Listen to us now! If you don’t shut up and get the hell out of here, we will enact Rule 9, and you can deal with the consequences!!! Will you leave?!!
(Note: There is no such thing as Rule 9. We made that up as a bluff. We again called upon the contaminating being, but received no further response. We were confident we had made the entity buzz off. At this point we decided to end the session, and try our hand at Dr. 58 later).
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