Dr. 58 -- Session 21

And so the Dr. 58 session continue ....


Question: Dr. 58, before we get into some other issues, many people here find it curious that you use the expression ‘Jesus Christ’ as an expression or surprise or frustration. Is this common in your world?

ANSWER: YES. IT'S AN EXPRESSION.

Question: In our world, Christianity is probably the most influential religion in the world, or at least one of the top three most important faiths in the world. How influential would you say Christ is in your world?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. THERE ARE MANY CATHOLICS, BUT THEY ARE SCATTERED. THEY FOLLOW THE PRIMARY AXIOM OF JESUS.

Question: What is this Primary Axiom of Jesus?

ANSWER: JESUS SAID: TO BE, OR THOUGHT TO BE, THAT IS THE DILEMMA OF EXISTENCE.

Question: To be or thought to be? !! To be or thought to be? !! Did you actually say, To be or thought to be?? stop it, Dr. 58! We beg of you!

ANSWER: I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU.

Question: (Much groaning and feelings of dismay. Heavy sigh. Plunge ahead). Listen, Dr. 58, you accomplished bullshi**er. In our world, there is a famous poet by the name of William Shakespeare. One of his most famous lines is “To be, or not to be, that is the question.” And now you say the Primary Axiom of Jesus Christ is “To be or thought to be ..." That’s a bit hard for us to take!

ANSWER: WHY? BARDEMON SHAKESPEARE WAS THE PROPHET OF JESUS.

Question: What?! Do you actually expect us to believe that? In our world Shakespeare lived more than 1,500 years after the time of Christ. He was a Christian, I suppose, but not a religious figure of any kind. He was a writer and poet. Are you saying that in your world, Jesus and Shakespeare were contemporary figures?

ANSWER; YES, JESUS WAS BLIND, DEAF AND MUTE, AND SO DID NOT SPEAK. SHAKESPEARE SPOKE FOR HIM.

Question: Ugh! Although I am loathe to ask you anything concerning time -- since your world seems so confused about the concept of time -- can you tell me when Jesus and his prophet Shakespeare lived?

ANSWER: IN ANCIENT TIMES. LONG AGO.

Question: Yeeesh! I almost don’t even know what to ask next. Well, you say Jesus was blind, deaf and mute? So how did he communicate with Shakespeare?

ANSWER: JESUS WAS SAID TO COMMUNICATE PSIONICALLY TO THE ELECT.

Question: He communicated to his followers with psychic power?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Okay. You said previously that Jesus emerged from the land of Sumer. Where is that in your world?
ANSWER: A DESERT REGION ON THE WESTERN FRINGE OF THE VAST FORLORN.

Question: What is known about the birth of Jesus?

ANSWER: HIS MOTHER IS SAID TO BE MARY OF OUTER SPACE.

Question: Heaven help us. Mary of Outer Space? This is starting to sound like a bad, a very, very bad B movie! Why is she called Mary of Outer Space?

ANSWER: BECAUSE SHE IS SAID TO HAVE HER ORIGIN OUTSIDE OF THE WHAT THE CHRISTIANS CONSIDER TO BE OUR UNIVERSE, A FALSE THOUGHT UNIVERSE.

Question: A False Thought Universe? What exactly is that supposed to be?

ANSWER: JESUS MAINTAINED THAT THIS UNIVERSE WAS A FALSE UNIVERSE CONSTRUCTED BY HIS TWIN BROTHER MOTHTET AND THAT ALL ARE ENSLAVED WITHIN.

Question: His twin brother Mothtet? Was he also blind, deaf and mute?

ANSWER: AS THE LEGEND GOES, MOTHTET NEVER TOOK HUMAN FORM.

Question: What was he? Some kind of god?

ANSWER; I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON CHRISTIAN THOUGHT.

Question: So this Primary Axiom of Jesus, “To be or to thought to be, that is the dilemma of existence.” This, then, seems to speak to the basic premise that the universe of a false thought construction of Mothtet, and that people must question it, or escape from it, for the sake of their salvation? Is that right?

ANSWER: I THINK SO.

Question: So Jesus seems to be saying that people must seek “to be,” in other words, to “be real" rather than be fooled by their entrapment in the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well, how is it that people -- who are supposedly real -- come to be entrapped within the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?

ANSWER: JESUS TAUGHT THAT THE TRUE ORIGIN OF MANKIND WAS OUTSIDE THE THOUGHT UNIVERSE, IN OUTER SPACE, THE REALM OF HIS MOTHER MARY.

Question: Okay, so how do people get trapped in the flypaper of Mothtet?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW FLYPAPER. JESUS SAID THAT THE ORIGIN OF TRUE SELF WAS OF OUTER SPACE.

Question: So I take it that Jesus agreed to be born and manifest physically inside the False Thought Universe to bring salvation to humankind?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Have you ever heard of Satan or Lucifer?

ANSWER: I HAVE NOT HEARD OF SATAN. LUCIFER WAS A GREAT ASTRONOMER.

Question: Uhhhhhhhhh. Was Lucifer a deity of any kind, involved in Christian theology?

ANSWER: NO, LUCIFER LIVED IN A MUCH LATER CYCLE THAN THAT OF JESUS. HE WAS A BRILLIANT MAN. A GENIUS.

Question: What was Lucifer’s main achievement?

ANSWER: THE DELINEATION OF THE NATURE OF STARLIGHT.

Question: Wow, so Lucifer must be a very important figure in American society, since your culture is fundamentally attuned to starlight, right?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. LUCIFER MADE IMPORTANT DISCOVERIES.

Question: Is he revered in America?

ANSWER: HE IS KNOWN AS A GREAT ASTRONOMER.

Question: Hmmm. Well, getting back to Jesus and Mothtet. I have to say I see many similarities and confluence's with religious thought in our world. For example, Jesus was born physically in our world to save humankind as well -- but this idea of a False Thought Universe sound extremely similar to a completely different religion we have here called Buddhism. Do you have Buddhism in your world.

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW BUDDHISM.

Question: There was a man in ancient times. His name was Prince Gautama Siddhartha. He was The Buddha, the founder of Buddhist thought and approach. Have you heard of him?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Well, anyway, the Buddha maintained that our world was primarily a great big illusion, similar to the False Thought Universe of Mothtet, and than humans must see through the illusion if they were to escape the suffering of their existence here. What do you think?

ANSWER: I SEE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN YOUR BUDDHA AND OUR CHRIST.

Question: Was Jesus crucified in your world?

ANSWER; I DON'T KNOW CRUCIFIED.

Question: Well, how did Jesus die in your world?

ANSWER: JESUS DID NOT DIE. HE IS IN STASIS.

Question: Wow! The same kind of stasis your parents were in?

ANSWER: NO, JESUS LIVED IN THE TIME BEFORE THE ADVANCES IN STARLIGHT ATTENUATION. HIS STASIS IS OF A DIFFERENT NATURE.

Question: Well, where is his body, Do you mean he is physically resting in stasis somewhere?

ANSWER: YES. HE LIES IN STASIS WITHIN THE BLOOD ZIGGURAT OF KEMIT.

Question: Wow! Can anyone go and view the body of Jesus lying in stasis?

ANSWER; ONLY THE ASCENDED ELECT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MAY VIEW THE BODY OF JESUS.

Question: Wow! (must stop saying Wow!). So does the Catholic Church have a Pope and a hierarchy or cardinals and priests, and such?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW POPE. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS MANY PRIESTS.

Question: Who is the head of the Catholic Church?

ANSWER: THE MAGDALENE.

Question: Wow! (There I go again.) You mean like the Mary Magdalene?

ANSWER: YES. MARY MAGDALENE WAS THE WIFE OF JESUS.

Question: Wow! So the head of the Catholic Church in your world is a woman!!!

ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.

Question: Ha, ha! You don’t know how wild that sounds to us. Anyway, the current Magdalene, this is not the original wife of Jesus also in some kind of stasis, is she?

ANSWER: NO. SHE IS THE SYMBOLIC WIFE OF JESUS. SHE IS A HUMAN BEING.

Question: And the Magdalene is appointed for life, and then a new one is chosen when she dies.

ANSWER: YES

Question: So Jesus was married? What happened to his wife, which I assume was the original Mary Magdalene?

ANSWER: JESUS ENTERED STASIS. SHE ESTABLISHED HIS CHURCH.

Question: Did she just die like anyone else?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DIED, OR IF SHE IS DEAD.

Question: Oh no, there we go again with our argument about the nature of death. Let’s just say she is no longer around and passed into history, okay?

ANSWER: PERHAPS.

Question: Now you say Kemit, where this ziggurat is located? I think that’s what some people in our world maintain is the proper name for Egypt, or was an ancient precursor of Egypt. Do you have an Egypt in your world?

ANSWER: NOT THAT I KNOW.

Question: Do you have an Africa?

ANSWER: YES, THERE IS A CONTINENT OF AFRICA.

Question: Is Kemit in the northeastern portion of the African continent?

ANSWER: THAT IS PART OF KEMIT. KEMIT IS VAST.

Question: Ummmm. (What to ask next! This could go in so many directions!) Did Jesus and Mary have children?

ANSWER: YES, MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE QUINTATUM.

Question: What is the Quintatum?

ANSWER: I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD ONCE BEEN A CATHOLIC. YOU DON'T SEEM TO KNOW ANYTHING. THE QUNITATUM WERE THE FIVE SONS OF JESUS, THE FIRST PRIESTS.

Question: You’re right! I don’t know anything! And I wish I knew even less when I speak with you! Were the Quintatum quintuplets? Do you know what I mean. Were they all born at the same time?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Total wowsers! And they helped their mother Mary get the church going?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: So they were all males, I assume?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: And are there male and female priests?

ANSWER: NO FEMALES. BY TRADITION OF THE QUINTATUM, ALL PRIESTS ARE MALE.

Question: Why did Jesus go into stasis, and when is he going to wake up?

ANSWER: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS EXACTLY. HE WILL AWAKEN AT AN APPOINTED TIME.

Question: Is there any question as to whether Jesus really is lying in stasis, or is this some kind of myth concocted by the Church?

ANSWER: JESUS LIES IN STASIS. IT IS KNOWN.

Question: But if only the Ascended Elect are allowed to view the body, how does the rest of the world know?

ANSWER: THE ASCENDED ELECT HAS ALLOWED OTHERS OF SPECIAL NOTE TO VIEW JESUS ON OCCASION TO MAINTAIN THE FAITH.

Question: You mean non-Catholics of important position, such as a Mayan high official?

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

Question: Well what is your opinion? Do you really think that Jesus is a godlike figure, the son of Mary of Outer Space -- or is he just a normal human being?

ANSWER: I GIVE IT LITTLE THOUGHT.

Question: Okay, what do you think of this concept that you may be entrapped in the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?

ANSWER: IT IS PROBLEMATIC. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS THE PORTAL.

Question: Ah yes, the Portal of Cool Assimilation. So you are saying that the Portal leads to a place that is outside the False Thought Universe?

ANSWER: NO, YOU ASSUME THAT THERE IS A FALSE THOUGHT UNIVERSE.

Question: Well, I don’t assume that, but you seemed to suggest that the fact that one can pass through the Portal of Cool Assimilation that this would contradict the concept of the False Thought Universe theory, right?

ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX.

Question: I’ll say. Look, we have about 5 billion questions, but we simply must rest now. Let’s talk again soon, okay, Dr, 58?

ANSWER: YES.

Good-bye.

GOOD-BYE