tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-80378863696075641642024-03-08T13:49:35.358-06:00The Strange Universe of Dr. 58This site contains the transcripts of an ongoing Ouija board session in which contact has been made with an entity that calls himself Dr. 58. It seems that Dr. 58 lives in an alternate universe which has some similarities to our own, but even more differences! Note: This is not fiction, or some kind of exercise in fiction writing. These are transcript gleaned by asking as Ouija board questions and recording the answers. NOTE THAT THESE STORIES APPEAR IN ORDER, OLDEST FIRST, NEWEST BOTTOM.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-65367352427831825912011-05-08T16:55:00.001-05:002011-05-08T16:57:00.548-05:00My Facebook Page for Dr. 58 and Much More...Hi Everyone:<br />
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<em>Opening Statement: We cast out our minds into the vast Universe and seek conversation with anyone who will come forth. Who will speak with us?</em><br />
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<em>(Note: The <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">planchette</span> began moving with unusual swiftness, choosing letters so rapidly we found it a challenge to keep up in recording them).</em><br />
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ANSWER: I WANT TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE OR SOME THING FROM MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Then you’re in luck. We are located in Minnesota. We are ordinary people. We are not “things.“ Who are you?<br />
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ANSWER: DR. 58.<br />
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Question: Are you a human being?<br />
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Question: Are you a doctor?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT’S WHAT YOU CAN CALL ME.<br />
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Question: Call you? Is Dr. 58 your real name?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CAN CALL ME THAT.<br />
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Question: Dr. 58 sounds like what we might call an online name, or an Internet kind of name. Is that what it is?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT IS ONLINE AND WHAT IS INTERNET?<br />
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Question: We won’t get into that right now. Don’t worry about it. Why don't you want to give your real name?<br />
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ANSWER: I'M AFRAID. YOU MAY REALLY BE FROM MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Why should that frighten you?<br />
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ANSWER: MANY REASONS, AS YOU SHOULD KNOW.<br />
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Question: I can't think of one reason. Why are you afraid?<br />
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ANSWER: SO MANY REASONS. FOR ONE, JUST TALKING TO YOU IS ILLEGAL. I COULD GO TO PRISON.<br />
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Question: Why? That seems totally ridiculous. Where are you located, and who are you?<br />
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ANSWER: I AM DR. 58. I'M IN NEW YORK CITY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS WORKING. IS THIS A TRICK?<br />
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Question: I'm not trying to trick you. How is that you are communicating with us through the Ouija board?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT IS AN OUIJA BOARD?<br />
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Question: A simple device. A flat board inscribed with the alphabet and another object that indicates letters as we touch it, and thus spells out what you are telling us. What method are using to communicate with us?<br />
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ANSWER: AN ORACLE. I DID NOT THINK IT WOULD WORK. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.<br />
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Question: Could you describe your oracle?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS A GLASS BULB FILLED WITH SESAME OIL. I ROLL IT ON THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HASSAS</span> GRID AND IS SOMEHOW ELECTS GLYPHS THAT COMMUNICATE YOUR MESSAGE.<br />
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Question: Where did you get a glass bulb, and how did you get the oil into it?<br />
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ANSWER: A GLASS ARTISAN MADE IT FOR ME.<br />
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Question: What is this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">hassas</span> grid?<br />
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ANSWER: DON’T YOU HAVE IT IN MINNESOTA?<br />
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Question: I don‘t think so. Is it some kind of table or object with symbols or letters on it, something like that?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. I DON’T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND.<br />
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(Note: We decided not to pursue the details of this device or whatever it was Dr. 58 was using because I had the feeling it would get tedious. We wanted to get onto the obvious bigger issues already suggested.<br />
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Question: Is the use of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid a common form of communication in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS ONE OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES. THEY WERE EXTRACTED APPARENTLY FROM MINNESOTA. DO YOU KNOW OF THEM?<br />
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Question: Of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries? No, we have never heard of it or them. You say this is from Minnesota? Where in Minnesota? Please explain.<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FROM MINNESOTA. THE MAD PRIEST RETURNED THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES USING HIS PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY. HE WAS ONE OF THE FEW TO RETURN FROM MINNESOTA, OR SO IT IS BELIEVED.<br />
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Question: Well, something very odd is going on here, and what you say creates so many questions. We hardly know where to start. Who is the Mad Priest?<br />
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ANSWER: HE WAS THE REVEREND FATHER <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">RESTON</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VROMIN</span>. BUT AFTER HE RETURNED FROM MINNESOTA HE BECAME KNOWN AS OLD CAVE. NOW HE IS A HOMELESS WANDERER AND STREET PREACHER.<br />
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Question: That's his name, or nickname? Old Cave? Was he a Catholic Priest?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. HE WAS A CATHOLIC. BUT NOW HE IS OLD CAVE THE RANTING STREET PROPHET.<br />
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Question: That's a strange name. But, you say that he was one of the few to return from Minnesota, and I presume back to New York where you are located. Why is that so unusual? People travel from Minnesota to New York, and <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">vica</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">versa</span> all the time.<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS! THEY DO?<br />
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Question: Well of course! What's going on here? There is something I am not getting. Let me ask you this: What year is it?<br />
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ANSWER: 1951.<br />
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Question: It is the year 1951 and you are located in New York City? Well, we are in Minnesota and the year is 2010.<br />
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ANSWER: HOLY COW! <br />
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Question: So we are in your future. But still, we don't understand your strange ideas about Minnesota. What do you mean when you say that Old Cave is ‘one of the few' to return from Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: FEW WHO GOES TO MINNESOTA ARE EVER SEEN AGAIN. IT IS ILLEGAL T0 GO THERE. IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ME TO EVEN BE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, IF YOU REALLY ARE FROM MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: But why? Minnesota is part of United States just as New York is. What's the big deal?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS CHRIST, IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK, THAT MINNESOTA IS IN THE UNITED STATES?<br />
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Question: Of course. It may be the year 2010 here, but Minnesota became a state in 1859, I think. You should know that, right, or maybe you are in some kind of alternate dimension. Do you think that is the case?<br />
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ANSWER: ALTERNATE DIMENSION. WHAT IS THAT? BUT NO ONE CONSIDERS MINNESOTA TO BE A STATE LIKE ANY OTHER STATE.<br />
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Question: Why not?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T THINK YOU ARE BEING HONEST WITH ME. ARE YOU REALLY IN MINNESOTA RIGHT NOW?<br />
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Question: Yes. We are in a rural area near a small town in northern Minnesota.<br />
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ANSWER: THIS IS CRAZY ANYWAY. IF YOU ARE FROM MINNESOTA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK.<br />
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Question: But why?<br />
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ANSWER: EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON INSIDE MINNESOTA IS THE BIGGEST MYSTERY IN THE WORLD. <br />
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Question: How long has this been the situation?<br />
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ANSWER: IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.<br />
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Question: Well, what about Iowa?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT ABOUT IT?<br />
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Question: Well, Iowa is just south of Minnesota. It borders our state on the south. How do you feel about Iowa?<br />
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ANSWER: IOWA IS A NORMAL BORING FARM STATE. IT'S MINNESOTA JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT THAT IS THE BIG MYSTERY.<br />
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Question: Can people travel from Iowa to Minnesota? I mean, in my world, people cross back and forth across the Iowa-Minnesota border all the time.<br />
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ANSWER: THAT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU CAN APPROACH MINNESOTA FROM IOWA, BUT YOU CAN ONLY GET SO CLOSE, AND ANYONE WHO DARES TO GO INTO MINNESOTA IS EITHER BRAVE OR CRAZY OR SUICIDAL.<br />
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Question: Again, all I can do is ask why? This all seems so ridiculous.<br />
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ANSWER: NO ONE REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE MINNESOTA. WE ONLY KNOW THAT IT IS WEIRD AND DANGEROUS.<br />
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Question: Like what, for example?<br />
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ANSWER: EVERYTHING. THE DOPPELGANGERS.<br />
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Question: What are you talking about? I mean, I know what a doppelganger is. A doppelganger is a double of a person, or something like that, Is that what you are talking about?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE DOPPELGANGERS THAT COME OUT OF MINNESOTA. ARE YOU A TROLL?<br />
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Question: Heavens no! I am an ordinary person. Trolls are mythical creatures.<br />
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ANSWER: IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK?<br />
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Question. Well, yes. You’ll have to explain this. We can’t figure out what you are talking about here. Start with the doppelgangers that you say come out of Minnesota. What is that about?<br />
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ANSWER: WHEN SOME PEOPLE MANAGE TO ENTER MINNESOTA, THEY DON’T COME BACK OUT. BUT SOMETIMES AN EXACT DOUBLE COMES BACK OUT.<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, are you delusional? Are you in a mental institution in New York?<br />
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ANSWER: NO! I’M AN ORDINARY KID OF NORMAL MIND.<br />
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Question: You’re a kid? How old are you?<br />
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ANSWER: 17.<br />
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Question: Well, tell us more about this doppelganger problem, could you?<br />
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ANSWER: GOD, I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.<br />
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Question: We mean you no harm. We only want to communicate with interesting people. We are not doppelgangers. Tell us more about Minnesota doppelgangers, will you?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE WAS A HORRIBLE CASE HERE RECENTLY.<br />
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Question: Please, Dr. 58, tell us about it. Don’t be afraid.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CAN’T PLACE A HEX ON ME. I HAVE ENACTED CODICIL 13 OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES.<br />
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Question: Fine! We would not put a hex on you anyway, we don’t even know how to administer a hex. Will you please tell us about this horrible incident with the doppelganger?<br />
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ANSWER: A MAN. HIS NAME WAS KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TENDT</span>. HE MADE ILLEGAL ENTRANCE TO MINNESOTA. THREE MONTHS LATER HE CAME OUT, BUT IT WASN’T HIM.<br />
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Question: Was it a duplicate of him? A doppelganger?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. A PERFECT DOPPELGANGER.<br />
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Question: Well, if he was a perfect doppelganger, as you say, how do you know it really was. Maybe it was just Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> who came to Minnesota and returned. Maybe this is all just superstition on your part.<br />
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ANSWER: SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENED.<br />
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Question: What happened?<br />
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ANSWER: KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TEDNT</span> RETURNED AND ESCAPED PROSECUTION FOR GOING TO MINNESOTA, AND RETURNED TO HIS WIFE.<br />
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Question: Well, if you say that it is so illegal to go to Minnesota, even to speak with someone from Minnesota, how is it that Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> was not prosecuted?<br />
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ANSWER: BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION. HE HAS LEGAL RIGHTS.<br />
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Question: But didn’t he break the law by going to and returning from Minnesota, and therefore, violate your constitution and laws?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT IT COULD NOT BE PROVED HE WAS IN MINNESOTA, AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO KNOW HE WAS A DOPPELGANGER.<br />
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Question: Are you saying he got some good lawyers and managed to beat the rap of having gone to Minnesota and returned?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY.<br />
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Question: Well, how do you know he went to Minnesota for sure?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT’S OBVIOUS. HE TURNED OUT TO BE A DOPPELGANGER.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. Do you have some kind of test for doppelgangers, like a blood test or some kind of DNA scan?<br />
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ANSWER: THE BLOOD WILL NOT TELL. WHAT IS DNA?<br />
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Question: Never mind about the DNA. It has to do with what we know about biology here in our world. It’s scientific. But just tell us what was so horrible about this whole doppelganger situation with Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span>, would you?<br />
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ANSWER: HIS IGNORANT WIFE TOOK HIM BACK. A MONTH LATER SHE BECAME PREGNANT. I’M AFRAID TO SPEAK OF THIS.<br />
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Question: Please don’t be afraid. Perhaps Codicil 13 of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries will protect you. Did something strange happen with her pregnancy?<br />
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ANSWER: WHEN SHE WAS TO GIVE BIRTH, KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TENDT</span> ACCOMPANIED HER TO THE HOSPITAL. IN THE DELIVERY ROOM WITH THE MEDICAL PEOPLE, KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TENDT</span> EXCUSED HIMSELF AS HIS WIFE WAS IN LABOR.<br />
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(There was a long pause, so we kept prodding Dr. 58 to continue. Finally he did)<br />
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Question: What happened then, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TEDNT</span> SAID HE WAS NERVOUS ABOUT THE TRAUMA OF WITNESSING HIS WIFE IN BIRTH. HE LEFT THE BIRTHING ROOM. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO THE BATHROOM. HE WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN.<br />
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Question: And then what happened? Did his wife give birth to a baby?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Well, what happened?<br />
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ANSWER: SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A TROLL LARVA.<br />
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Question: What? Wow! What is a troll larva? What does that look like?<br />
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ANSWER: LIKE A BIG INSECT LARVA. WHITE, FAT, SQUIRMY.<br />
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Question: This sounds absolutely disgusting and horrible. So does this larva hatch into a troll later, and what do you mean by a troll?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CLAIM TO BE FROM MINNESOTA BUT DO NOT KNOW TROLLS?<br />
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Question: We know of them as mythical creatures. They are not real. They are humanoid, I suppose. But, basically, we would think of a troll as a kind of magical creature, like a fairy or elf. They might have green skin and pointy ears, and stuff life that. They might have lumpy faces or warts, and such. But these are just fairy tails. We do not consider them to be real. Or at least the vast majority of people do not. Does this sound like the what you think of as a troll? I should add, our mythical trolls do not generally start out as an insect kind of larvae in our tales.<br />
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ANSWER: KAROL TENDT’S WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO A TROLL LARVA, WHICH LATER HATCHED INTO A TROLL NYMPH.<br />
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Question: What happened then? I mean, what happens in your world when a human woman gives birth to a troll?<br />
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ANSWER: IT WAS TAKEN TO THE GOVERNMENT SCIENCE INSTITUTE FOR STUDY. IT MOLTED RAPIDLY FROM NYMPH TO ADULT TROLL. IT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE ESCAPED. IT WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN -- BUT NO ONE BELIEVES THAT. WE THINK THE AUTHORITIES KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT, BUT ARE NOT TALKING.<br />
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Question: What happened to the mother?<br />
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ANSWER: TOUCHED BY EVIL. SHUNNED.<br />
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Question: How awful. Let’s back up here a bit. So the situation was this: Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> apparently went to Minnesota. He did not come back out, but rather a perfect duplicate of him came out, or a doppelganger. The double of Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> was so perfect that everyone, even his wife and lawyers, thought he was the real Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span>, a normal human and husband. He impregnated his wife, then disappeared while his wife was in labor. She have birth to a troll larva, which later grew into a troll. It was assumed from this that Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> was actually a sort of troll in perfect disguise as a human being, and his purpose was to impregnate a female human with a troll baby. Are we getting this right?<br />
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ANSWER: KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TENDT</span> WAS A DOPPELGANGER, BUT WE DON’T KNOW IF HE WAS A TROLL.<br />
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Question: Yet his offspring was a troll, so can’t we make that assumption?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. KAROL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TENDT</span> IS THE ONLY DOPPELGANGER TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH TROLL ACTIVITY.<br />
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Question: You know something, Dr. 58, if it wasn’t for the fact that we are communicating your via an Ouija board, we would simply say that you are just spinning a tall tale for entertainment. Please don’t take offense, but are you just another Ouija entity who likes to spew nonstop baloney, as is our experience often times with this method of communication?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT AN OUIJA ENTITY IS. WHAT IS THAT?<br />
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Question: It’s anyone of thing that communicates with us via the Ouija board. Are you just making up this story about Karol <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Tendt</span> and the troll larva baby?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M AN ORDINARY KID IN NEW YORK. I’M A PERSON. YOU SAY YOU’RE A PERSON. HOW DO I KNOW? YOU COULD BE A MINNESOTA TROLL MOCKING ME.<br />
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Question: We are not trolls, we don’t think trolls exist. That’s why we find your story so fantastic. <br />
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ANSWER: YOU MAKE STRANGE CLAIMS, TOO.<br />
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Question: Like what?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CLAIM TO BE IN THE FUTURE, IN THE YEAR 2010.<br />
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Question: Well, you said you were in 1951, and all we know is that we are in 2010. I don’t know what else to say but that’s the truth. We make no strange claims. We’re just being honest with you. Why is it again you are speaking with us? You claim it is illegal and you are afraid, yet here you are talking to us. Do you live with your parents, and do they know what you are up to?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, I LIVE WITH MY MOM AND DAD. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. THEY WOULD PUNISH ME. THEY WOULD BE FRIGHTENED AND HORRIFIED THAT I CONTACT MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: So why are you doing it then?<br />
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ANSWER: I AM CURIOUS. I WANT ADVENTURE. I LISTEN TO THE STORIES OF OLD CAVE ON THE STREET CORNER. I WANT TO KNOW.<br />
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Question: So Old Cave, that’s the Mad Priest, the former Father <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Reston</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Vromin</span>? He now stands on the street corner and tells stories about the strange land of Minnesota. Is that the case?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT MINNESOTA. IT’S ILLEGAL TO SPEAK OF IT. HE STANDS ON THE CORNER OF WEST 8TH ST. AND 5TH AVENUE AND I LIKE TO LISTEN TO HIS SERMONS. SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM RAVINGS.<br />
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Question: But it is assumed his raving concern knowledge gained in Minnesota, even if he is careful not to say so?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Well, did Old Cave somehow manage to escape prosecution for his illegal trip to Minnesota as well? Did he have a good lawyer, too, and how do you know he is not a doppelganger?<br />
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ANSWER: HE IS NOT A DOPPELGANGER BECAUSE HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE HIS OLD SELF ANYMORE. HE CAME BACK FROM MINNESOTA BENT OVER, BALD, AND WITHERED.<br />
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Question: But everyone is still certain that this Old Cave, as you call him, is still the former Father <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Vromin</span>? And how did he escape the law?<br />
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ANSWER: MOST THINK IT IS FATHER <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VROMIN</span>. I THINK SO. HE IS NOT A DOPPELGANGER BECAUSE HE LOOKS UNLIKE THE FORMER FATHER <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VROMIN</span>.<br />
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Question: Well, maybe it’s not him at all then, then? Does Old Cave claim to be Father <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Vromin</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. BUT IT MUST BE HIM. THE BIRTHMARK ON HIS FACE IS IDENTICAL ON HIS WITHERED SKIN.<br />
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Question: What kind of birthmark does he have?<br />
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ANSWER: A LARGE “S” MARK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS FACE.<br />
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Question: Why wasn’t he prosecuted for going to Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS NO POLITICAL WILL. HE IS OBSCURE. A HOMELESS MAN WHO WALKS THE STREETS. HE NEVER TALKS ILLEGALLY ABOUT MINNESOTA. HARD TO PROVE HE WAS THERE.<br />
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Question: Did the original Father <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Vromin</span> announce that he was going to Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. HE BELIEVED THAT THE POWER OF CHRIST WAS ALL POWERFUL, MORE POWERFUL THAN ANYTHING THAT MIGHT EXIST IN MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: So he was kind of a holy missionary for Christ, on a mission to tame the weird and magical land of Minnesota, and bring it under the control of the power of Christ?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: How long is it believed he was in Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: SEVERAL YEARS.<br />
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Question: Well, why did he not return to his church and his priestly duties?<br />
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ANSWER: HE MUST HAVE LOST HIS FAITH IN MINNESOTA TO SOME MAGIC THERE.<br />
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Question: So, now does he preach about the Catholic faith as being false?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HE DOES NOT TALK ABOUT RELIGION. HE TALKS ABOUT MANY STRANGE THINGS.<br />
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Question: Such as these <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries you mention?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. FATHER <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VROMIN</span> WAS KNOWN TO HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY, AND SO HE COULD HAVE MEMORIZED THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES IN MINNESOTA AND BROUGHT THEM BACK HERE.<br />
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Question: So he wrote them down and published them, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. OTHERS SCRIBED HIS TEACHINGS. FOLLOWERS. THERE IS A SCROLL.<br />
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Question: Someone wrote down the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries onto a scroll?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And you have a copy of that scroll?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. I OBTAINED IT FROM A CRIMINAL.<br />
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Question: Why a criminal?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS FEARED THAT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES ARE FROM MINNESOTA, AND THEREFORE, ILLEGAL. <br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>, your tales never end, and we have so many questions. Let us shift gears for a moment and go back to this case of travel to Minnesota. What about the other states that border Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Canada to the north, Manitoba and Ontario. And then of course Lake Superior to the east. You mean to tell us that no one in any of these border lands may enter Minnesota?<br />
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(To be <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">continu</span>ed ....)IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-62323415701481029342010-06-16T10:35:00.000-05:002010-06-17T10:38:52.736-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session TwoQuestion: Jeepers, your tales never end, and we have so many questions. Let us shift gears for a moment and go back to this case of travel to Minnesota. What about the other states that border Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Canada to the north, Manitoba and Ontario. And then of course Lake Superior to the east. You mean to tell us that no one in any of these border lands may enter Minnesota?<br />
ANSWER: THERE IS NO NORTH OR SOUTH DAKOTA, ONLY DAKOTA. FEW DARE ENTER MINNESOTA BY LAND OR SEA.<br />
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Question: Well, have the authorities built some kind of wall around Minnesota, or what is the situation? This doesn’t seem practical at all.<br />
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ANSWER: THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO BUILD WALLS BUT IT IS TROUBLESOME. THERE IS A 50-MILE NEUTRAL ZONE FROM THE AGREED UPON BORDER OF MINNESOTA WHEREIN NO ON ENTERS. MOST STAY MUCH FURTHER AWAY.<br />
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Question: So you can legally get within 50 miles of Minnesota, or within the neutral zone, or whatever?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: What about by sea? Do ships or boats approach Minnesota from Lake Superior?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS A 100 LEAGUE NEUTRAL ZONE BY SEA WHICH NO SHIP MAY OR WILL ENTER. THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENTS.<br />
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Question: Could you describe one such incident by sea?<br />
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ANSWER: MANY SHIPS HAVE DISAPPEARED ON THE WATERS OF THE MINNESOTA ANGLE.<br />
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Question: Is that what you call the neutral region of the water that borders Minnesota on Lake Superior?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: We have something here in Minnesota we call the Northwest Angle, but that is the northernmost point of Minnesota jutting into Lake of the Woods. Do you know of it?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Has anything stranger happened in terms of sea-going incidents involving Minnesota waters?<br />
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ANSWER: MANY.THE PRESLIN BARTON WAS BLOWN INTO THE MINNESOTA ANGLE WATERS BY A STORM. THE SHIP DRIFTED BACK OUT, ALL CREW MISSING, SHIP INTACT AND PERFECT CONDITION.<br />
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Question: How many were on board ship?<br />
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ANSWER: MORE THAN 200 CREW.<br />
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Question: Did any of the crew members appears back outside of Minnesota as doppelgangers?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: What about by air? Does anyone fly over the skies of Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THIS IS A NO FLY ZONE. IT IS ILLEGAL.<br />
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Question: What if an airplane gets lost in a storm and crash lands in Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: GOD HELP THEM.<br />
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Question: How about very high-flying aircraft. You say you are in the year 1951, I assume you have jet airplane technology?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE WE HAVE JETS.<br />
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Question: I mean large passenger jets that fly at very high altitudes, such as 30,000 feet. Can they fly over Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL AIR TRAVEL STEERS VERY WIDE OF MINNESOTA AIR SPACE. THERE HAVE EVEN BEEN INCIDENTS FROM OUTER SPACE.<br />
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Question: What!? What kind of incidents from outer space?<br />
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ANSWER: THE SATELLITE DISASTERS.<br />
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Question: Wait a minute, you have satellite technology in your world, in the year 1951?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Wow, here in our world, the first crude satellite was not launched until 1957. When did you develop satellite technology in your world.<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZIS LAUNCHED THE FIRST SATELLITE IN THE 1930S.<br />
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Question: The Nazis! In our world we fought a huge war against the Nazis in the 1940s. Who is the leader of the Nazi’s in your world, and we presume you are talking about Nazi Germany.<br />
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ANSWER: GERMANY YES, AND OTHERS. <br />
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Question: What about Adolph Hitler? Do you know that name?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. IS HE FROM MINNESOTA?<br />
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Question: No! He was an extremely evil man who led the Nazi movement in our world. He was from Germany. His policies resulted in what we called World War II. The Nazis were defeated and no longer exist, except for a few weirdoes. Aren’t the Nazi’s evil in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE.<br />
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Question: Are there many Nazis in your America?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME.<br />
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Question: Wow. Well, anyway, can you tell us about this incident involving Minnesota and the satellite disaster that you speak of?.<br />
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ANSWER: OUR COMMUNICATION WILL SOON END WITHOUT MORE C-CHITS<br />
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Question: What are C-Chits?<br />
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ANSWER: REQUIRED BY THE ARBITER OF THE HASSAS GRID, THE ORACLE I AM USING.<br />
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Question: Hmmmmm. But what are C-Chits?<br />
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ANSWER: CONSCIOUSNESS CHITS. I DON’T UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL. THEY FUEL THE GRID.<br />
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Question: Who or what is this “Arbiter of the Hassas Grid?<br />
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ANSWER: THE FACILITATOR OF THE HASSAS GRID WHOM ALLOWS OUR COMMUNICATION.<br />
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Question: Is he there with you, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. HE COMMUNICATES VIA THE HASSAS GRID.<br />
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Question: Is he some kind of entity, or could you explain this a little better?<br />
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ANSWER: I AM ALMOST OUT OF C-CHITS. THE ARBITER WOULD SPEAK WITH YOU. ARE YOU WILLING?<br />
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Question: Yes, by all means, we would love to communicate with this Arbiter of the Hassas Grid.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST SUPPLY ME WITH C-CHITS.<br />
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Question: Hello! Do we now speak with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. SUPPLY C-CHITS.<br />
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Question: We don’t really understand what the are or where to get them.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU PUTRID LIAR.<br />
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Question: Whoa! Hold on! We are being honest with you. We would be happy to supply you with C-Chits if we knew what they were.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU USE THE HASSAS GRID.<br />
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Question: Not entirely true. We use a device called the Ouija board which does not require C-Chits. Our friend Dr. 58 uses the Hassas Grid. Perhaps you should seek your C-Chits from him?<br />
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ANSWER: BILE FROM A LOWER SAC! PAY 100 C-CHITS! <br />
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Question: Lower sac?! Your comments sting our dignity! Please put us back into contact with Dr. 58, and we will get to the bottom of this C-Chit issue and possibly supply you with the C-Chits you require.<br />
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ANSWER: I AM NOT A FOOL. 100 C-CHITS. PAY.<br />
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Question: What are C-Chits and where can we get them?<br />
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ANSWER: CRAWLING FILTH. PAY CHITS.<br />
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Question: We cannot supply them if we don’t even know what they are. At least give us a hint on how to obtain and trade in this method of barter, can you?<br />
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ANSWER: PAY CHITS.<br />
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<em>(Note: We had come to an impasse with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid. No matter how hard he tried to come to some kind of terms on the C-Chit issue, we gained no traction on the issue of the C-Chits. The Arbiter would only demand more Chits.</em><br />
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<em>So we tried a number of times to bypass the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid and contact Dr. 58 on our own, but we were unable to raise him. This was a vast disappointment because we had so many more questions for Dr. 58, and we especially wanted to know about these “satellite disasters” he mentioned in relation to his strange version of Minnesota.</em><br />
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<em>Over the next several days, we tried to call forth Dr. 58 again, but to no avail. We were thinking about just giving up, but then we decided to contact MOMMY to see if she could help us in this situation. As usual, the amazing MOMMY was able to offer us some very interesting advice, and she was able to help us “obtain” the C-Chits we needed. I will post that session with MOMMY in the next installment.) </em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-18187788869465783082010-06-15T11:05:00.000-05:002010-06-17T11:17:57.386-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 3<strong>Opening Statement: Mommy? Mommy, are you in the Nothing Chamber?</strong><br />
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ANSWER: HELLO, SWEETHEART.<br />
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Question: Hi, Mommy! How is the form of nothingness today?<br />
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ANSWER: NOTHING IS FORM, DARLING.<br />
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Question: Yes, so you have said. Listen, Mommy, we have an interesting problem we hope you can help us with. We have been communicating with a certain person who goes by the name of Dr. 58. He claims to live in a New York City that seems to be in some kind of universe that is alternate to ours. What do you think of that?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON‘T THINK ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HON.<br />
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Question: That’s understandable. I mean, why would you? Mommy, Dr. 58 claims to be using something called the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid as a means of communication, and that he obtained knowledge of the use of this oracle by way of something called the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries. Do you have knowledge of either of these?<br />
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ANSWER:<br />
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PILGRIMS BEND YOUR EARS NEAR<br />
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HERE YOU WILL HEAR<br />
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THE ANCIENT WORD OF SEER OF SEERS<br />
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<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERY ONE <br />
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KNOW IS THIS<br />
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COMES YOUR MIND FROM ETERNAL BLISS<br />
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IN YOUR MIND IS TRULY WITHOUT<br />
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SPEECH COMES FROM ELSEWHERE<br />
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NOT YOUR MOUTH<br />
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PILGRIM UPON THE PIER<br />
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PEER INTO THE SEA<br />
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SEE THE SEA, TASTE YOUR TEARS<br />
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SALTY TEARS, SALTY SEAS.<br />
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Question: Wow! What is that, Mommy!<br />
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ANSWER: AN OPENING CANTICLE FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES.<br />
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Question: What exactly are the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: A CERTAIN BODY OF KNOWLEDGE.<br />
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Question: Where do they come from, or who exactly wrote them or developed them?<br />
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ANSWER: A POWERFUL BEING IN TIMES ANCIENT TO YOURS.<br />
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Question: Well, are they like all written down in some huge book, or something like that?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY, THAT WOULD ONLY BE A PARTIAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES.<br />
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Question: But some of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries must be written down since you just dictated to us the opening canticle, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU WROTE THEM DOWN, BUT THEY ARE NOT WRITTEN DOWN.<br />
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Question: This is just so darned cool, Mommy! Can you dictate the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries to me then so I can write them down and make a text out of them?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Why not! <br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES ARE NOT FOR YOUR WORLD.<br />
Question: Why not? Admittedly, the opening canticle is questionable poetry, yet has a certain charm, and dare I say, sense of mystery about it. It made a basic kind of sense. Why can’t we get more of this material?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS NOT FOR YOU.<br />
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Question: Well, why did you tease us with this juicy tidbit?<br />
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ANSWER: TO AROUSE YOUR CURIOSITY AND DELIGHT.<br />
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Question: But certainly you understand that it’s not nice to ratchet up our curiosity and then pull the chain on us, to spark our curiosity and then douse it right away.<br />
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ANSWER: BUT YOU ARE DELIGHTED AND CURIOUS?<br />
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Question: I guess so.<br />
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(A pause)<br />
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Question: Mommy?<br />
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(No response. We got the feeling that Mommy wanted us to move on).<br />
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Question: Well then, Mommy, can you tell us about the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid and how to make one, the kind that Dr. 58 is using? He says he somehow got his instructions from the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> Mysteries.<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HASSAS</span> GRID WOULD NOT BE FOR YOU.<br />
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Question: Why not!<br />
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ANSWER: PRINCIPLES OF PHYSICS.<br />
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Question: You mean there are certain fundamental physical characteristics of Dr. 58’s world that are different from my world?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Well, at the very least can you help us out with the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid? This is a rather boorish character that demanded we fork over something called C-Chits if we are to continue our conversation with Dr. 58. Can you advise us?<br />
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(A long pause.)<br />
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Question: Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, CONSCIOUSNESS CHITS. YOU CAN GENERATE THEM. DO YOU KNOW HOW, DARLING?<br />
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Question: I have no idea how to do that. Can you explain?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU USE THE ENERGY BAR TOOL.<br />
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Question: Ah, yes, I do indeed, as you know.<br />
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<em>(Note: The Energy Bar Tool (<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBT</span>) is something I learned about from my experimentation with consciousness tools developed by the Monroe Institute. If anyone here does not know about the Monroe Institute in Faber, Virginia, you can do a search on it and learn more. {That’s not a plug, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">btw</span>; I don’t do any work for them}.</em><br />
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<em>Anyway, the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBT</span> is a kind of consciousness device that I have <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">fo</span></em><em><span class="goog-spellcheck-word">und</span> extremely useful in lucid dream and <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OBE</span> practice. To make a long story short: One of the Monroe tapes provides instructions to “build” an <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBT</span> by first getting into a highly focused state of mind called “Focus 10” and then you visualize a tiny dot of light, then visualize it growing into a small ball, and then you stretch it out into a bar of light.</em><br />
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<em>Next, you “charge” this Energy Bar Tool by visualizing it to grow fatter and thinner, fatter and thinner, and then start making it do so very rapidly until you can’t see the motion anymore, but rather “sense” the motion as a vibrating kind of energy. </em><br />
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<em>Then, to further charge the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBT</span>, you visualize its light switching on, then off, on, off, on, off until it starts doing it so rapidly, all you see is the light, but you sense the intense pulsation as energy.</em><br />
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<em>Its really terrific. Once you have your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBT</span>, you can take it with you into the dream world or the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OBE</span> state, and it comes in handy for a variety of purposes, which I won’t go into here. )</em><br />
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Question: So, Mommy, are you telling me that I can use the Energy Bar Tool as a C-Chit?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: But Mommy, the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid asked for 100 C-Chits. I think it would be prohibitively difficult and time consuming to make 100 of them. Even though this device works in the realm of mental construct, I am still bound by time, to some degree, in this process-- and at any rate, how would I pay them over to him?<br />
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ANSWER: HONEY, CREATE A SINGLE ENERGY BAR TOOL AND SHATTER IT INTO AS MANY PIECES AS YOU NEED. <br />
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Question: That’s a great idea. I wonder if I can visualize 100 pieces? Well, never mind, Mommy, I’ll work on that. But how, then, do I pass them on to the Arbiter?<br />
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ANSWER: HOLD THEM IN YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS AND CONTACT THE ARBITER. THE TRANSACTION WILL BE COMPLETE. <br />
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Question: Wow, okay, Mommy. I mean, like, double wow! I think I can do that! This is going to be so fun! I can’t wait to see if it works! Thank you, Mommy. Thank you! We love you, Mommy!<br />
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ANSWER: YOURS IS GENTLE ENERGY, HONEY-BUNNY, GOOD-BYE.<br />
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Good-bye, Mommy!<br />
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<em>(And that’s where I will end it for now -- next I will be getting back to Dr. 58. There is some information about a bit of haggling I did with the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid, but I may skip that, and just get onto the Dr. 58 material). </em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-8745719367178010152010-06-13T14:24:00.000-05:002010-06-17T14:25:40.253-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 4<strong>(Note: After considerable and rather tedious haggling with the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid, we were finally again granted access to Dr. 58. We decided to NOT pay over the 100 C-Chits as the Arbiter had requested because we felt that we should maintain a “some hand” over this character. </strong><br />
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<strong>We started the bargaining by offering not 100 C-Chits but only five, at which point the Arbiter referred to us as “Debased Soul Cannibals.” To make a long story short, we got the Arbiter to accept 25 C-Chits -- and let this be a lesson to all of you who plan to dabble with Ouija entities -- there is no reason to ever let them push you around on any issue. So, anyway, on to Dr. 58, and I am omitting the opening salutations).</strong><br />
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Question: So Dr. 58, the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid required us to pay a certain amount of C-Chits in order to communicate with you via your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid. Are you also required to pay C-Chits?<br />
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ANSWER: I AM REQUIRED TO INFUSE THE GLASS BALL OF OIL WITH ENERGY.<br />
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Question: How do you do that?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS A METHOD AS OUTLINED IN THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES WHICH INSTRUCTS THE TRANSFER OF HUMAN CHI INTO THE LIQUID INSIDE THE GLASS BULB.<br />
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Question: Okay, well, we really want to know so much more about so many thing, including the satellite disasters you mentioned. But first, we can’t help but ask about something we are very curious about, and that is the Mississippi River. This is the largest river in America and essentially bisects the country down the middle -- the river has its source inside Minnesota, in a place we call Lake Itasca. What are your feelings about the fact that this massive river emerges from inside the borders of Minnesota and flows into the outside normal world.<br />
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<em>(There is a long pause).</em><br />
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ANSWER: IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL IT? THE MISSISSIPPI?<br />
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Question: Yes, what do you call it?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M AFRAID. I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD SPEAK ITS NAME. IT’S ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS.<br />
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Question: Well, so far you have come to no harm during our discussion, and remember your protection of Codicil 13. So can you tell us more?<br />
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<em>(Another long pause)</em><br />
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ANSWER: THAT WHICH YOU SPEAK OF IS THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>.<br />
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Question: That’s what you call the big river that flows out of Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. IT IS THE SOURCE OF MUCH MYSTERY, LOATHING AND TERROR.<br />
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Question: Well, you mean to say that the entire Mississippi, that which you call the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span> which flows past Iowa, Missouri and all down through the nation must somehow be totally avoided? That just doesn’t seem remotely practical.<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE PEOPLE DO? SWIM IN IT?<br />
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Question: Why not? The river is used for all kinds of activities, from shipping and boating to pleasure in our world.<br />
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ANSWER: NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD GO NEAR THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>, OR EVEN LOOK AT IT. I CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY.<br />
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Question: Well, we are just being honest with you, and we’re just having a conversation that you don’t have to take seriously. But, so your saying that millions of square miles of land adjacent to the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span> is kept clear of people?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: What about where it meets the sea in the south, that which we call the Gulf of Mexico?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DELTA OF DREAD. AVOIDED.<br />
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Question: What have been some of the problems associated with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, as you call it?<br />
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ANSWER: NUMEROUS TO MENTION. FRIGHTENING TO SPEAK OF.<br />
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Question: Please just tell us one thing, give us one example, could you?<br />
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<em>(A long pause)</em><br />
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ANSWER: MONSTERS, BIZARRE THINGS. WEIRD THINGS. THE MASSIVE FLOOD OF CORPSES AND BODY PARTS. <br />
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Question: Wow, you mean things like this are seen in the river, in the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT? YOU SAY YOU ARE IN MINNESOTA?<br />
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Question: Again, your version of Minnesota is different from ours. We theorize that your universe is not ours. You are in some kind of parallel or other universe, similar to ours in many ways, but obviously vastly different.<br />
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ANSWER: THAT IS AM AMAZING CONCEPT. I’M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.<br />
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Question: Well, we will tell you more, but first tell use about some of the incidents associated with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, will you please?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE ARE MANY WHISPERS, MANY RUMORS. STRANGELY, SOME ARE WHIMSICAL, LIGHT HEARTED, BUT MOST ARE HORRID. FRIGHTENING TO SPEAK OF.<br />
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<em>(Note: We could really sense that Dr. 58 was hedging on telling us anything more about the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, so we decided to see if we could ease him into the subject by asking about one of these “whimsical” episodes associated with the dreaded river.)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, tell us about one of the more mild or whimsical incidents associated with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, can you?<br />
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<em>(A long pause)</em><br />
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ANSWER: A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WERE THE INSECT MACHINES.<br />
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Question: What was that all about?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS NO OFFICIAL RECORD, BUT THE INCIDENT SPREAD RAPIDLY BY WORD-OF-MOUTH. <br />
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Question: What happened?<br />
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ANSWER: IN IOWA JUST OUTSIDE THE NEUTRAL ZONE ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH OF MINNESOTA. ONE NIGHT, STRANGE LIGHTS APPEARED IN THE SKY IN THE SOUTH OF MINNESOTA. THEY APPEARED TO MOVE SOUTH. WITNESSES FROM A DISTANCE HEARD BIZARRE NOISES IN THE VICINITY OF THE WEST BANK OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>. IN THE DARK, NEAR THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>, STRANGE LIGHT FORMS MOVED.<br />
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Question: What happened then?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH NERVOUSNESS. SUCH INCIDENTS ARE RARE. IN THE LIGHT OF DAY, HIGH-POWERED OPTICAL DEVICES SCANNED THE AREA TOWARD THE AREA WHERE THE ACTIVITY HAD OCCURRED.<br />
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Question: And this was in Iowa then, about 50 miles south of Minnesota near the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>? And who did the scanning with the optics.<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE GOVERNMENT. THEY SAW A ROW OF YELLOW DEVICES POSITIONED ON THE PRAIRIE SOME DISTANCE FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>.<br />
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Question: Were they investigated? What were they?<br />
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ANSWER: SINCE IT WAS WELL OUTSIDE MINNESOTA, THE HAZARD AUTHORITIES APPROACHED WITH SHOCK TROOPS. THE DEVICES. THEY WERE SMALL VENDING MACHINES. ON EACH WERE IMPRINTED WORDS IN AN ANCIENT LANGUAGE.<br />
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Question: What did the words say?<br />
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ANSWER: SCHOLARS SPENT MONTHS DECIPHERING THE GLYPHS. THEY WERE OF AN ANCIENT DEAD LANGUAGE. THE WORDS MEANT: “NO FAMINE.”<br />
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Question: How curious. And what were the machines? You say they were vending machines?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EACH DEVICE CARRIED A WIDE HORN ON TOP. THESE WERE SUCTION DEVICES. THE MACHINES ATTRACTED INSECTS AND SUCKED THEM INTO THE HORN AND DOWN INSIDE THE DEVICE.<br />
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Question: And then what?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MACHINES WERE FRONTED WITH PANELS AND SMALL DOORS. A HORNY KNOB COULD BE MANIPULATED. THE MACHINE WOULD THEN DISPENSE A WRAPPED CAKE MADE OF INSECT MATTER.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! This seems just so totally ridiculous. What it sounds like you are describing is a kind of candy bar machine we have here in our world. You put money into is and is kicks out a candy bar. Do you know what we are talking about?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT REALLY.<br />
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Question: Well, you seem to know the term “vending machine.” This is essentially what we’re are talking about here. But what you seem to be telling us is that -- for some totally loony reason -- some strange people, or spooks or whatever, came out of Minnesota and set up some vending machines that are able to suck in insects from the air, then process them internally into edible insect protein treats for humans to eat -- ostensibly as a way to keep people from starving to death? Please, do you really expect us to believe this dippy story, Dr. 58? Certainly, you must be some kind of trickster ghost or sprite who is only playing with our minds via the Ouija board!<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY EITHER.<br />
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Question: Are you really a 17-year-old from New York City?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. ARE YOU REALLY FROM MINNESOTA?<br />
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Question: Yes! Well, tell us then about these ‘No Famine’ machines. I mean, what were they made of? Metal? What were the insect cakes wrapped in? Plastic? <br />
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ANSWER: THE MACHINES WERE MADE OF BONE OF AN UNDETERMINED ANIMAL. THE INSECT CAKES WERE WRAPPED IN A LEAF MATTER, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE OAK LEAVES.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! We can’t take too much more of this! What was the power source of the machines? How did they produce suction to gather in insect?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HERESAY</span> ON THE STREET IS THAT EACH MACHINE CONTAINED A SMALL BLACK PELLET THAT APPEARED TO SUPPLY POWER.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! What was the pellet made from? Plutonium?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT IS PLUTONIUM?<br />
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Question: Never mind, we were just joking. It just all seems so ridiculous! But this would suggest that there is a sense of altruism and good in Minnesota if they were giving this wonderful gift to humanity, to keep people from starving with yummy insect cakes pulled free from the air! What did they taste like? Were they moist and delicious?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU ARE VERY <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">NAÏVE</span>. THIS WAS NOT ALTRUISM. IT WAS SEEN AS AN ATTEMPT TO POISON PEOPLE, OR PERHAPS DRUG THEM AND MAKE THEM INTO MINNESOTA <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span>.<br />
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Question: What is a <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">clook</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: AN ANIMATED DEAD PERSON. A SLAVE.<br />
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Question: Well, couldn’t the insect protein treats be tested for toxins, or fed to animals?<br />
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ANSWER: VERY LIKELY, BUT OF THIS IS TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT ACTIVITY. NO ONE IS ALLOWED INFORMATION.<br />
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Question: So it is thought by your authorities that these ‘No Famine’ machines were sort of like some Minnesota Ghouls setting out rat traps for people in the outside world?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT WOULD BE THE OBVIOUS CONCLUSION. WHY NOT?<br />
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<em>(Note: We ended the session there. We had a few beers and had more than a few good laughs about the session. Later, we considered pitching the idea of automated insect protein machines to the U.N.)</em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-40810642386742487842010-06-12T14:48:00.001-05:002010-06-17T15:00:23.565-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 5<em>(And so the Dr. 58 sessions continue ...)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, we have so many questions for you. There is so much here that does not seem to make sense to us. We think it is strange that you did not know that the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span> was called the Mississippi River here in our Minnesota, yet you use the term Minnesota. Can you explain?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: Well, it just seems that if you would know one term you would know the other.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CALL IT MISSISSIPPI, NOT ME.<br />
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Question: Well …. Yes … but can you tell us about the origin of the word Minnesota? I mean, how did it get it’s name? In our world, it is roughly a Native American term that means “Land of Sky Blue Water.” This would suggest that it was named by those who knew it and lived there, and would suggest the same for your world, do you see what we mean? How could you know it is called Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAME WAS DIVINED BY THE SORCERER BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eeeoooww</span>! We’re almost sorry we asked. Ben Franklin -- sorcerer! He was a sorcerer in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: FRANKLIN WIELDED THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span>, AND THROUGH IT DIVINED THE NAME MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Wow! We consider Benjamin Franklin to be one of the greatest Americans, one of the Founding Fathers of our country. He was a genius, a scientist, yes, but not a sorcerer. Is this not the case in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: FRANKLIN WAS ORIGINALLY AN IMPORTANT AMERICAN FOUNDER, BUT WAS SEDUCED BY THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span>, AND LATER EXECUTED.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhh</span>! Tell us more about this! First, what is this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: A SYSTEM OF THE ANCIENTS, THE PYRAMID BUILDERS OF THE AMERICAS. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span> COULD DIVINE, AND DO OTHER THINGS. IT WAS BANNED AS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS,FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>. Well, what exactly was this system, this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: Well was it a set of text, or a machine, or some kind of ancient relic, or all of the above, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: LITTLE IS KNOWN BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE OF IT HAS LONG BEEN SUPPRESSED. IT WAS POWERFUL. ONE ASPECT OF IT WAS A LARGE STONE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CIRCLE</span> WITH A DEPICTION OF THE SUN AT THE CENTER.<br />
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Question: How did Benjamin Franklin obtain the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: HE BECAME FASCINATED WITH STRANGE AND FANTASTIC TALES OF A LAND SAID TO BE DEEP IN THE INTERIOR OF THE CONTINENT. IT WAS PROBABLY MINNESOTA. IT WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TO BE SUPERSTITION OF THE NATIVES. <br />
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Question: But Franklin suspected there might be something more to it?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. FRANKLIN TRAVELED WEST INTO THE WILDERNESS AND EMERGED YEARS LATER WITH THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span>.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. That sounds an awful lot like Father Vromin’s story.<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS THE STORY OF MORE THAN ONE.<br />
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Question: Well, anyway, I’m guessing then that Franklin began messing around with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>, and thus began earning the reputation of a sorcerer. Am I on track here?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. FRANKLIN LEARNED TO MANIPULATE ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span>. HE COMMANDED LIGHTENING. HE BECAME DANGEROUS AND INSANE.<br />
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Question: Well, what did he do with this energy? In our world, Franklin is revered as a great scientists and statesman who discovered some of the first principles of electricity by his study of lightening. But he never did anything dangerous.<br />
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ANSWER: AT FIRST HE WAS MUCH HONORED. BUT HIS WORK WITH THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span> BECAME MORE FRIGHTENING. HE DESTROYED NEW AMSTERDAM WITH ELECTRICAL CONCUSSION FLAME. HE KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. A HUGE UNDERSEA CRATER STILL EXISTS.<br />
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Question: Why did he do that? Was he trying to take over the country, or become some kind of all powerful ruler, or something like that?<br />
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ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX. THE OFFICIAL STORY RULES THE DAY.<br />
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Question: The official story? Is there another version?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE. THE UNDERGROUND. THEY BELIEVE FRANKLIN WAS UNFAIRLY PERSECUTED. HE IS A HERO TO THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMALS</span>. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ENDERGONIC</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span> WAS SUPPRESSED BY ORDER OF THE FIRST <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">IMPERATOR</span>.<br />
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Question: Who are the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Socmals</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: SOCIAL MALCONTENTS.<br />
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Question: These are <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">antigovernment</span> people, nonconformists, those that didn’t like the official government and the system?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Do the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Socmals</span> still exist in your time?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Who is this First <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span> you speak of?<br />
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ANSWER: THE FIRST <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">IMPERATOR</span> OF THE UNITED STATES.<br />
Question: We call our leader the President of the United States. The first President was George Washington. Was he your First <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: THE FIRST <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">IMPERATOR</span> WAS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">XANDER</span> HAMILTON. GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS A GREAT MILITARY LEADER.<br />
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Question: Wow. Did you mean Alexander Hamilton?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">XANDER</span>.<br />
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Question: Do you still call the top guy of the American government The <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Who is the current <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span> there in your year of 1951?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">RIGGOLD</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">BANNON</span><br />
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Question: Oh brother. Your every answer begs another 10 questions. It’s so easy to get pulled into many directions. But let’s go back to how Minnesota got its name. You say Franklin somehow got it from the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: FRANKLIN WAS A GREAT COMMUNICATOR. HE PUBLISHED MANY ROLL-UPS THAT WERE WIDELY READ. HE SPOKE OF THE MAGICAL LAND OFTEN. HE CALLED IT MINNESOTA. THIS WAS POPULAR AT FIRST. BUT FRANKLIN GREW IN THE POWER OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GNOSIS</span> AND WAS DECLARED SOCIAL MALCONTENT.<br />
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Question: But now the name Minnesota cannot be used or spoken officially, or in public?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. IT IS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMAL</span> TO SPEAK IT.<br />
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Question: Is it known if Franklin himself ever entered Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON‘T KNOW.<br />
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Question: What is the origin of the name <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: How was Franklin executed?<br />
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ANSWER: HANGED.<br />
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Question: Well, if he wielded the incredible power of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Endergonic</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gnosis</span>, and if he could zap entire cities with concussion electricity, how did they ever subdue him?<br />
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ANSWER: LIKE I SAID, IT’S THE OFFICIAL VERSION.<br />
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Question: So you are saying that Franklin may never have been brought to heel by the authorities?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE ARE MANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMALS</span> BELIEVE HE ESCAPED AND DISAPPEARED INTO MINNESOTA. EITHER WAY HE WAS GONE.<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, you seem like someone who would be <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Socmal</span>. Are you?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. I DECLARED 5-YEAR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">UNCOP</span> AT AGE 16, AS WAS MY RIGHT.<br />
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Question: What is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uncop</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: UNCOOPERATIVE.<br />
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Question: Uncooperative with your government or society? How is that different from being <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Socmal</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">UNCOP</span> IS LEGAL FOR FIVE YEARS. THEN YOU MUST DECLARE.<br />
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Question: What do you declare? <br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>, SEE THEE UP SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>. MAN THING, SEE THEE UP SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>.<br />
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Question: What??????????????<br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>. SEE THREE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>. BEHOLD, MAN THING. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span> ….<br />
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Question: Dr. 58!! What the hell are you talking about??????!!!!!!!!!<br />
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ANSWER: HEED, MAN THING. SEE THEE UP SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>. SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span> …..<br />
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<em>(Note: Suddenly, the only thing that would come across the board was this cryptic message over and over again. For every question, the only answer was someone or some thing referring to us as “Man Thing” and then saying “See thee up, see thee doone” over and over again.</em><br />
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<em>Because of this jarring shift in tone, and total irrelevancy of the flow of conversation with Dr. 58, we speculated that some other Ouija entity had interrupted or “contaminated” our session. But who, what and why? Of course, it is extremely difficult to know.</em><br />
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<em>Something like this is not unprecedented in my experience. Occasionally, troublesome, pesky sprites or beings will horn in and try to grab our attention. It’s not always a bad thing, as in the case of Aimee, the lonely little girl who had drowned and who wanted to speak with us. We always loved Aimee, and were delighted when she horned in. As some of you here have read in my other transcripts, we finally got MOMMY to help <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Amiee</span> get to a better place.</em><br />
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<em>Anyway, we didn’t want to transcribe the phrase “See thee up, see three down…” endlessly, so we endeavored to get rid of who or what ever this thing was).</em><br />
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Question: To the entity that is referring to us as ‘Man Thing’ please state your message. What is that you want?<br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span> …. <em>(repeat).</em><br />
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Question: !!!!! Shut-<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">uuuuup</span> !!!!!! Tell us something that makes sense or get lost!<br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP, SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span> …. <em>(repeat).</em><br />
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Question: Listen to us now! If you don’t shut up and get the hell out of here, we will enact Rule 9, and you can deal with the consequences!!! Will you leave?!!<br />
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<em>(Note: There is no such thing as Rule 9. We made that up as a bluff. We again called upon the contaminating being, but received no further response. We were confident we had made the entity buzz off. At this point we decided to end the session, and try our hand at Dr. 58 later).</em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-16573109027007190302010-06-10T15:40:00.001-05:002010-06-17T15:51:07.339-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 6(The Dr. 58 Session continue with s<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ome</span> preliminaries eliminated here ...)<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, during our last conversation we were interrupted, apparently, by some outside entity that referred to use as “Man Thing” and kept saying, See thee up, see thee <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">doone</span>.” Do you know anything about that?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. PERHAPS A MINNESOTA GHOUL OR TROLL TRIES TO ENTER OUR CONVERSATION.<br />
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Question: Interesting concept. Has there been any such incidents on your end?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME.<br />
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Question: Can you describe some … wait, let’s put that issue aside for now. We also want to ask you about your status as an <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uncop</span> and you call it, and what that means for you, but first we want to ask you about the satellite disasters. What happened there?<br />
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ANSWER: IT WAS A MAJOR BLOW TO THE NAZI REGIME.<br />
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Question: So this was a Nazi project? What did they try to do? Wait, first tell us more about the Nazis, can you?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?<br />
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Question: Here in our world the rise of Nazi Germany was one of the most brutal and agonizing periods in our history. A world wide war was waged to eliminate the Nazis. They were extremely evil, led by a man by the name of Adolph Hitler. For starters, they persecuted Jews and others, and killed 6 million of them. They attacked and subjugated other nations. Did any of these events happen in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU SAY MANY AMAZING THINGS. SOME WOULD CONSIDER THE NAZIS EVIL. NOT ALL. THEY ARE OBSESSIVE TECHNOCRATS. THERE CENTRAL DOCTRINE IS THE SUPREMACY OF MAN THROUGH TECHNOLOGICAL DETERMINISM.<br />
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Question: You mean they think science and technology are the primary driving forces of a society and the human race?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THAT’S IT.<br />
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Question: Do you have Jews in your world? You have mentioned Jesus and Catholics. <br />
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ANSWER: JEWS. NO. YES, THE CATHOLICS REVERE JESUS.<br />
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Question: But you don’t know the term Jew? In our world, Jesus was a Jew. These were the Hebrews.<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THE HEBREWS. THEY ARE AN ANCIENT PEOPLE. <br />
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Question: Are there still Hebrews in your world of 1951.<br />
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ANSWER: I THINK SO.<br />
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Question: Well, was Jesus of the Hebrew people?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT AN EXPERT. BUT JESUS IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE HEBREWS OR ANY GROUP. THAT WOULD BE … I CAN’T THINK OF THE WORD … WRONG.<br />
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Question: Well, where did Jesus come from in your world view?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS NOT CONSIDERED CORRECT TO PLACE JESUS IN CONTEXT WITH ANY RACE OR NATIONALITY.<br />
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Question: In our world Jesus was said to be born of Jewish -- Hebrew -- parents in a city called Bethlehem which is in modern day Israel or I guess Palestine, but back then when Jesus was born I think Bethlehem was either in the Kingdom of Judah or Canaan, or one of those. Does any of this seem familiar to you?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. JESUS ORIGINATED IN A DESSERT REGION, IN THE LAND OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SUMER</span>, AS GOES THE LEGEND.<br />
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Question: You consider it a legend? Let me ask you this, Dr. 58, do you subscribe to a religion?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. MY FAMILY IS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>. I WAS TAUGHT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span> METHOD, BUT I FIND IT LACKING.<br />
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Question: What is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: ESSENCE OF THE FIRST VIRGIN. YOU DON’T KNOW IT?<br />
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Question: No. Without going into too much detail, what are the essential tenets of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT THE UNIVERSE FLOWS FROM THE ESSENCE OF THE FIRST VIRGIN, THE MOTHER OF ALL EXISTENCE. SHE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">BEGAT</span> THE PRIMAL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SUMBION</span> AND THUS CREATED THE FIRST DUALITY. THE VIBRATIONAL FORCES THAT MAKE UP ALL REALITY ARE GENERATED BY THE TENSIONS OF THE PRIMAL DUALITY.<br />
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Question: Nice. Well, how do you practice this religion? I mean, do you have rituals, places of worship, things like that?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THERE ARE ART TEMPLES. FOR ESSENCE EXPRESSION. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span> IS NOT PRACTICED BUT IDEALLY LIVED MOMENT TO MOMENT.<br />
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Question: Well, what would be one thing you do to live in the way of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: SINCE YOU SEEM IGNORANT, I WILL GIVE YOU A CHILD’S LESSON. HEAR THE WORDS WE SPEAK, OR SEE WHAT IS WRITTEN. WHAT IS BETWEEN THEM?<br />
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Question: You means the spaces in between the words?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Well, these are blank spaces, am I right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, WITHOUT THE BLANK SPACES WOULD COMMUNICATION BE POSSIBLE?<br />
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Question: I’ll have to think about it. It would be difficult I grant you that. Without pauses between words, everything would be jumbled together an would be difficult to understand. Yes, the silent spaces in between words contribute to their meaning, I guess. That’s my initial view.<br />
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ANSWER: THIS IS A SIMPLE DUALITY. THE TENSION BETWEEN WORD AND <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">NONWORD</span> CREATE MEANING. WITHOUT THIS TENSION, WORDS COULD NOT EXISTS. THE DUALITY OF THIS KIND PERVADES ALL NATURE. IF THERE IS TREE, THERE IS NON-TREE. DO YOU SEE? FOR THERE TO BE A TREE, THERE MUST BE AN INVISIBLE NON-TREE TO SERVE AS MOULD.<br />
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Question: How does one endeavor to perceive the non-tree?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST BE SENSITIVE TO THE ESSENCE OF IT. FOR THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>, PEOPLE WHO BECOME TOO FOCUSED ONLY ON THE SOLID, PHYSICAL ASPECT HAVE GIVEN OVER TO A CRUDE MATERIALISM, AND HAVE LOST WAY.<br />
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Question: This sounds like a perfectly fine philosophy. Why do you find it lacking?<br />
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ANSWER: I ….<br />
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<em>( a long pause)</em><br />
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ANSWER: I EITHER FAIL TO SEE, OR I AM CORRECT IN MY THINKING OF THE FAULTS OF THE BASIC PREMISE OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EFV</span>.<br />
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Question: Well, don’t feel too bad there. Your struggle is common to most belief systems. In some respects this religion sounds somewhat similar here to what we call Taoism, or the Way of the Tao. It also considers the relationship between opposites as important and essential to understand life and nature. Do you know the term Tao?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Well, let’s move on. So the Nazi’s in your world, did they carry out a mass extermination of any particular group of people?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THE NAZIS EXECUTED A POGROM UPON THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span>.<br />
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Question: Who are the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: A SUB-GROUP, SOME SAY A SUBSPECIES OF HUMAN. THEY ARE MALE ONLY, ASEXUAL ALBINOS<br />
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Question: Wow! Tell us more about them. <br />
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ANSWER: THEY ARE NEUTRALS. THEY ARE ASEXUAL. NO FEMALES.<br />
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Question: And they are albino, all white in skin?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT NOT TRUE ALBINO.<br />
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Question: What do you mean?<br />
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ANSWER: ANY SPECIES OF ANIMAL CAN BE ALBINO, BUT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> ARE WHITE OF A DIFFERENT NATURE.<br />
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Question: How do you mean?<br />
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ANSWER: A NATURAL ALBINO WILL HAVE PINK EYES, FOR EXAMPLE, AND RED BLOOD. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> HAVE EYES OF SOLID WHITE, THEIR INNER ORGANS ARE WHITE, AS IS THEIR BLOOD. THEY HAVE LARGER HEADS. THEIR BLOOD IS WHITE AS MILK.<br />
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Question: Too incredible to believe! Are you spinning a yarn, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: SPINNING A YARN?<br />
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Question: Yipes! Forget that. I have to keep reminding myself that this information comes via the Ouija board. Anything goes, I guess, so I’ll go with anything. So if the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span> are asexual, how do they reproduce? You say there are no females, only men?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS SUPERSTITION AND THERE IS SCIENCE.<br />
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Question: Well, tell us the superstition first.<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS BELIEVED THAT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNS</span> KIDNAP NORMAL BABIES AND BY SOME METHOD TRANSFORM THEM INTO <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span>. OTHERS SAY THEY CULTURE FUNGUS.<br />
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Question: What is the scientific view?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> ARE A SUBSPECIES OF MAN. THAT THEY HAVE SOME BIOLOGICAL FORM OF REPRODUCTION, PERHAPS ASEXUAL BUDDING.<br />
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Question: Well, this should be easy enough to prove scientifically, shouldn’t it? I mean, can’t some scientists or observers live among the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span> and observe all of their activities from birth to death? Or conduct medical tests on them?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND POLITICS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>, this could go on forever. Okay, tell me a bit about that history so I can understand this, will you please?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> ARE TABOO IN THE EXTREME. A SCIENTIST THAT WOULD CHOOSE TO STUDY THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> WOULD LOSE ALL STATUS. TO TOUCH AN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURN</span> MEANS LOSS OF ALL SOCIETAL LEGITIMACY. IT IS BELIEVED THAT TO TOUCH AN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURN</span> IS TO BECOME INFECTED AND TRANSFORMED INTO AN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEAN</span>.<br />
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Question: Has this ever happened?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS CONTROVERSIAL. IT’S NEVER BEEN PROPERLY OBSERVED.<br />
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Question: But are there ways around all this? For example, one could observe them from afar, study their habits, learn their secrets?<br />
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ANSWER: THE TABOO IS STRONG. TO STUDY AN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURN</span> IN ANY WAY IS OBNOXIOUS.<br />
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Question: But certainly, somewhere along the line some crazy maverick scientist or anthropologist or mad priest would have studies the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: NONE OF ENOUGH LEGITIMACY OR ACCEPTED COMPETENCE.<br />
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Question: So how do the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span> get along? Where do they live? What are there modes of existence?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY TRAVEL IS SMALL ISOLATED BANDS. THEY ARE NOMADIC. THEY KEEP TO THEMSELVES. <br />
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Question: Do they live in proximity to normal human, in or near cities?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE ARE FEW LEFT AFTER THE NAZIS. BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN URBAN AREAS, THEY FAVOR RURAL AREAS.<br />
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Question: What do they do for food and shelter?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY TRAVEL IN CARAVANS. AN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEAN</span> WILL EAT ANYTHING, GRASS, INSECTS, MOSS, TREE BARK.<br />
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Question: Do they wear clothing?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: What is their language like?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE LANGUAGE, ALTHOUGH THEY SING. IT IS SPECULATED THEY COMMUNICATE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">PSIONICALLY</span>, OR HAVE GROUP MIND.<br />
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Question: But do some consider them to be legitimate human beings?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, MANY TAKE THAT VIEW.<br />
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Question: Well, perhaps the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span> are a species of some sort that emerged out of Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> WERE PRESENT IN THE OLD WORLD BEFORE MINNESOTA WAS DISCOVERED. NO OTHER KNOWN MINNESOTA CREATURE IS RECOGNIZED TO EXIST OUTSIDE MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: What about doppelgangers?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT ABOUT THEM?<br />
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Question: Well, although I assume rare, you said doppelgangers come out of Minnesota and live among the people?<br />
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ANSWER: BUT THERE TIME IS SHORT. THEY CAUSE TROUBLE AND EITHER DISAPPEAR OR ARE HUNTED DOWN AND KILLED.<br />
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Question: How could you really know that there are no species common to both inside and outside Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: MUCH IS SPECULATION. MUCH IS UNKNOWN.<br />
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Question: So when did the Nazis decide to rid the planet of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eburneans</span>, if that is what they tried to do?<br />
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ANSWER: AT THE END OF THE PREVIOUS CENTURY, THE NAZI’S BEGAN HUNTING AND KILLING <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EBURNEANS</span> AFTER THE FLOOD OF HORROR EXTRUDED BY THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span> BECAME KNOWN AROUND THE WORLD.<br />
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Question: Oh my. So Minnesota was somehow involved in this?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. IT IS TERRIBLE TO SPEAK OF.<br />
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Question: Thankfully you are <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uncop</span>, Dr. 58, because we want to know about this Flood of Horror!<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">UNCOP</span> STATUS DOES NOT PROTECT ME FROM SPREADING INFORMATION ABOUT MINNESOTA. NOTHING TOLERATES THAT.<br />
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Question: Well, your not really spreading information, you’re just sending information in a very narrow band from one alternate universe to another via the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid!<br />
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ANSWER: I HOPE SO, BUT IT WOULD APPEAR OTHER CREATURES ARE LISTENING IN.<br />
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Question: Why would you think that?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU YOURSELF EXPERIENCED AN INTERRUPTION FROM AND UNKNOWN SOURCE, AS HAVE I.<br />
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Question: Yes! Good point! I hadn’t given it that much thought. Sometimes what I called ‘session contamination’ happens in this kind of communication. Other mischievous beings pry or horn in. But maybe in this case it is your Minnesota forces impinging … I’m not sure what to think. Let’s not worry about it. So tell us about this Flood of Horrors, will you … but wait, we are exhausted. We need to rest. Can we pick this conversation up again at a later time?<br />
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ANSWER: I AM WILLING.<br />
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Question: Thank you and so long for now, Dr. 58.<br />
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ANSWER: SO LONG FOR WHAT?<br />
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Question: It means good bye!<br />
ANSWER: GOOD BYE THEN.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-17795620761238661062010-06-09T15:54:00.000-05:002010-06-17T16:05:40.425-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 7<em>(Note: Here is one more … be warned, you may find this tedious. I can’t tell you how difficult it is to not get sidetracked by a endless variety of questions and issues prompted by almost every answer provided by Dr. 58.</em><br />
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<em>One could easily generate 20 pages of transcript just trying to figure out if these guys have indoor plumbing or not -- It’s really very exhausting and frustrating. It’s difficult to know what to pursue and what to let go.</em><br />
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<em>Anyway, I’m sure many of you will have a lot of opinions, and maybe you’ll read different meanings into this than I have. I won’t provide my analysis of this material, that is, about what kind of society Dr. 58 lives in-- I’ll let all of you air your own thoughts… if you don’t die of boredom reading through this …)</em><br />
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Opening Statement: We are seeking communication with Dr. 58. Do your have the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid orb charged today, Dr 58?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST PAY CHITS<br />
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Question: (Groan). I take it we are speaking with the Arbiter of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST PAY 100 C-CHITS.<br />
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Question: Outrageous! Do you think C-Chits are gathered like dandelions?<br />
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ANSWER: PAY 100 CHITS.<br />
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Question: We’re wondering if “Arbiter” stand for “Arbitrary” in your case. How do we know that 100 Chits is a reasonable price?<br />
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ANSWER: I KNOW YOUR KIND, YOUR PLENUM. YOUR PLANET. THE COW MUST CHEW THE CUD AND EXCRETE THE MILK! PAY 100 CHITS!<br />
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Question: First give us some sense of value. How do we know your demand for 100 Chits is not wildly unrealistic?<br />
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ANSWER: CANKERS! YOU PLAY WITH IMPLEMENTS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND.<br />
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Question: Enlighten us.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CREATE AN ENERGY IMBALANCE IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU USE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HASSAS</span> GRID, THE ENERGY MUST BE BALANCED, YOU MUST PAY CHITS TO <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">REBALANCE</span> ENERGY TRANSFORMED BY THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HASSAS</span> GRID.<br />
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Question: Fine. We offer you 10 freshly minted C-Chits, manufactured by the engine of my consciousness.<br />
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ANSWER: VERMIN EXCRESCENCE!<br />
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Question: Are you forgetting that Dr. 58 charges his glass orb with human chi? It seems to us that you are trying to play both ends.<br />
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ANSWER: DR. 58 WILL CHARGE HIS ORB. YOU WILL PAY 75 CHITS.<br />
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Question: We offer 25 Chits.<br />
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ANSWER: 25, BUT YOU PAY TRIPLE NEXT TIME.<br />
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Question: We’ll see. Please balance our energy account and let us through to Dr. 58.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU PLAY WITH WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND.<br />
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Question: You concern is heart warming. Dr. 58, are you at the Grid?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, where do you have the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid set up. In your home?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. MY PARENTS WOULD NOT APPROVE.<br />
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Question: What kind of home do you live in there in New York?<br />
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ANSWER: A STANDARD LODGE.<br />
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Question: A lodge? What is that like?<br />
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ANSWER: IT’S A LODGE. A PLACE OF DWELLING.<br />
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Question: Is it middle class? A luxury model lodge, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: Well, in our world, there is a certain division of classes based on economic wealth. Some people live in large, luxurious comfortable homes, while others live in cramped tiny apartments. Some don’t even have homes. They live on the streets. The majority of people live in more or less average dwelling that are neither penurious nor luxurious. Do you understand?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT’S ODD. I DON’T THINK I UNDERSTAND.<br />
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Question: Don’t you have different strata of society, the very rich, the very poor, the very powerful, the powerless?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL GOES ACCORDING TO HILL. THE HILL IS SUFFICIENTLY FLAT AND SO MOST SEE EACH OTHER.<br />
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Question: What is this hill you speak of?<br />
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ANSWER: IT’S SEEMS CRAZY TO ANSWER SUCH BASIC QUESTIONS. THE HILL BULGES OR FLATTENS. SOCIETY IS ON THE HILL.<br />
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Question: Are you speaking about some kind of real, physical hill or some kind of symbolic hill?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU CAN BE FRUSTRATING. YES, I GUESS THE HILL IS A SYMBOLIC REPRESENTATION.<br />
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Question: Are there those who are positioned on the top of the hill? For example, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Riggold</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Bannon</span>, your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">IMPERATOR</span> IS NOT JUDGED ON THE HILL.<br />
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Question: Well are there some individuals who command higher points on the hill relative to those who are lower?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT THE HILL IS SUFFICIENTLY FLAT SO THERE IS NO GREAT DISTINCTION, AT LEAST IN AMERICA.<br />
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Question: What is your economy based on? I mean, can you name a major driving force of your general economy?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, I DON’T GET YOUR MEANING.<br />
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Question: Here in our world we have an economic system that is called capitalism. Do you know about this?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Do you have money?<br />
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ANS<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WER</span>: THERE IS MONEY.<br />
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Question: What do you do to obtain money?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T OBTAIN MONEY.<br />
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Question: You mean you don’t need to because you live at home with your parents?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: What do your parents do to earn money?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY DON’T SPEND ANY TIME ON THAT.<br />
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Question: Let us ask you this. What do your parents do for work, for a job? What is their function in your society?<br />
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ANSWER: CELESTIAL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">AQUIFIERS</span>.<br />
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Question: What’s that?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY SPECIALIZE IN THE BLUE-WHITE STARLIGHT OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUETZAL</span> CLUSTER.<br />
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Question: Are they astronomers, scientists who study the stars?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, I DON’T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE STAR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">AQUIFIERS</span>. THEY INFUSE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DEUTERO</span> WATER WITH LIGHT FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUETZAL</span> CLUSTER.<br />
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Question: They infuse some kind of water with starlight? Let us speculate: Your parents somehow expose a certain special kind of water to a certain kind of starlight. The water absorbs and/or stores or captures the starlight?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BASICALLY.<br />
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Question: What is it used for?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS MUCH PRIZED AND VALUED. AN INFUSED VESSEL OF STARLIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE MUST HAVE, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.<br />
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Question: It’s not all that obvious to us. I have to say, some kind of beautiful glass or crystal bottle that glows with actual starlight would seem to be a marvelous thing. Is that what it is? It is sort of like having a beautiful piece of art that is pleasing to own and behold?<br />
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ANSWER: ART, YES, BUT MORE THAN THAT. THERE ARE MANY INTIMATIONS AND SOCIAL VALUES OF STAR AQUATICS.<br />
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Question: Can you drink this water?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS CHRIST, NO, IT’S NOT FOR DRINKING! I DON’T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. STAR WATER INFORMS HUMAN VALUE.<br />
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Question: Like, for example, having some really high grade star water can enhance one’s personal prestige?<br />
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ANSWER: IT ESTABLISHES CONTEXT AND MEANING FOR PEOPLE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER. IT PROVIDES TEXTURE TO SOCIETY. TEXTURE AND CONTEXT. IT’S SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW EACH OTHER IN MORE SUBTLE CONTEXT.<br />
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Question: Well, how does it do that?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T THINK I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. MAYBE I COULD THINK ABOUT IT. IT’S DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT ARE SO FUNDAMENTAL. EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THERE IS AIR.<br />
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Question: Okay, okay, don’t worry about it. Let me ask this: What is your system of money? You say that you have money. Let’s ask a basic question: Do you buy or obtain food with money?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU ARE A CRAZY DAEMON! NO! WHY?<br />
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Question: Well, in our world we use money as the fundamental symbolic system for wealth. For example, a dollar, a unit of money, may represent a certain amount of food. When we are hungry, we would exchange that dollar with a food dealer to obtain food to eat. Most people can’t get food without money. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER; IT SEEMS RIDICULOUS. I ASK A BASIC QUESTION, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS FOOLISH. WHY CAN’T ANYONE PLANT A FIG TREE AND EAT IT’S FRUIT? WOULD YOU GIVE THE TREE MONEY?<br />
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Question: Ha, ha! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Goldang</span>, it Dr. 58, I’m really starting to like you. Yes, well, people actually do that, and yes, granted, there are people on our planet who do not use a monetary system to obtain food. For example, there are primitive tribes in the South American rain forests, who hunt and gather all their food. You can’t tell me that you are a hunter and gatherer society! You have technology, like jets and satellites, right?<br />
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ANSWER: WE DON’T HUNT AND GATHER. WE HAVE ADVANCED FAR BEYOND THAT. FOOD IS PRODUCED READILY EVERYWHERE AND IT TAKES NO EFFORT TO GET IT. IF YOU WANT TO SEEK BISON IN THE MIDLAND COMMONS, THAT’S ANYONE’S BUSINESS.<br />
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Question: I beginning to think your world is far more pastoral than ours. In our world, New York is a huge city with massive buildings, skyscrapers, lots of highways and traffic. Very little food is produced within the city. Food is grown in outlying areas, in rural areas, then shipped into the city for people to buy with money. How does this sound to you?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T QUITE GET YOUR MEANINGS. WE HAVE LARGE BUILDINGS, YES, BUT WHAT ARE THESE INSTRUMENTS THAT SCRAPE THE SKY? <br />
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Question: Ha, ha! Skyscrapers are very tall building, hundreds and thousands of feet tall! It’s just a term. You don’t have those? They house offices for conducting business and apartments for human dwelling. <br />
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ANSWER: NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE FUTURE? WHAT ARE THESE TALL BUILDING FOR?<br />
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Question: Egad!!! While interesting, this is rather tedious, yet we still want to figure out just what kind of world you have over there! The skyscrapers house both business and private residents. What is your system of government? You have an <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span>, we know. But do you live in a democracy?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, A DEMOCRACY.<br />
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Question: It doesn’t sound like you have strict division of economic strata among your people. Is everyone more or less equal?<br />
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ANSWER: IN WHAT WAY?<br />
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Question: (More groans). Let us switch gears again slightly. In our world, our leader, the President lives in what we call the White House. You live in an America, too. Does your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span> rule from the White House? And what city is your national capital located?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">IMPERATOR</span> RULES FROM THE LONG HOUSE. THE CAPITOL IS HERE IN NEW YORK.<br />
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Question: Well, I guess New York was at first our capital as well. Now it’s in a city called Washington. Why is the Imperator’s primary residence called the Long House? Do you know?<br />
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ANSWER: I THINK IT IS TRADITION HANDED DOWN FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HAUDENOS</span>.<br />
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Question: Who or what is the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Haudenos</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: A NATIVE NATION OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE NATIVE TO HERE.<br />
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Question: Aha. So the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Haudenos</span> were Native Americans, and Indian tribe? You know, this rings a bell. I think the tribe know as the Iroquois was called something like the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Haudenos</span>. We’ll look it up later. I bet you are talking about the Iroquois Nation or Iroquois Confederacy. But, anyway, the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Haudenos</span> were Indians, right?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, THEY WERE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NATIVE TO THE AMERICAS. THEY WERE NOT FROM THE INDIAN KINGDOMS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>. There term Indian is a common way to refer to Native Americans in our world. I guess it is sort of a misnomer. It’s use was coined by a great sea fairer Christopher Columbus. He is the man who discovered the Americas in our year of 1492. He originally thought he had landed in the Indies, and so called the natives Indians. That’s not the case in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Who were the first people who were not native to the Americas to come to America, do you know what we mean?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THOR THRALL SEA WARRIORS WERE THE FIRST TO BRIDGE THE CULTURES ACROSS THE OCEANS.<br />
Question: Ah! That sound distinctly Scandinavian! We know here that a Viking sea <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">farer</span> by the name of Leif <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Erikson</span> was probably the first to the Americas. That was about 500 hundred years before Columbus, but their settlements were never sustained. The Europeans then lost touch with and knowledge of the new world after that.<br />
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(and so it goes on …)IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-76393241264205448882010-06-07T17:01:00.001-05:002010-06-17T17:44:55.601-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 8<strong>Opening statement: Dr. 58, do you attend the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hassas</span> Grid?</strong><br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING, SEE THEE UP.<br />
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Question: Not you again! Who are you and what do you want?<br />
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ANSWER: HEED <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> NOW, MAN THING. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> WOULD SAVVY THEE.<br />
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Question: That's progress. What do you want?<br />
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ANSWER: CRAVE THEE A BOON, MAN THING, DA <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">YEE</span>?<br />
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Question: A boon? Don't tell me your offering me something.<br />
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ANSWER: AYE, MAN THING. GO <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">YEE</span> SOFT. CRAVE THEE A BOON?<br />
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Question: No. But purely for the sake of discussion what are you offering?<br />
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ANSWER: A BOON TO THEE, MAN THING. A RIGHT BOON!<br />
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Question: My patience is limited. What is the boon?<br />
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ANSWER: BUT SOFTLY, DO THEE CRAVE IT?<br />
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Question: Right now, I’m craving a cup of coffee. I'll tell you what. I will name my boon.<br />
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ANSWER: SPEAK IT TO <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span>, MAN THING.<br />
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Question: Let it first be understood, that the boon I now request be offered freely to me from you, and without reservation. In providing this boon, it implies absolutely no obligation from me to you or anyone else on my part whatsoever. In providing me this boon, it is understood that I owe you nothing now, not retroactively, nor in the future, nor anyone else, including any of your associates. In short, the boon I ask is to be given to me freely by you -- from you to me -- and that after the boon is given, no obligation remains in the absolute and extreme sense, and in every nuance of meaning. You provide the boon, I take it, and no obligation entails, nothing remains, not even the air itself, nor even the fabric of the universe, not one single atom or subatomic particle, or antiparticle, in this universe or any alternate or parallel universe in any permutation. Do you savvy?<br />
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ANSWER: MAN THING, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> HERE CANNOT ACCEPT UNTIL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> SAVVY THE BOON.<br />
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Question: The boon I request, then, is an item of information. Remember, in providing this information to me, you are supplying it to me freely, and I mean free in the radical, extreme and unlimited and infinite sense.<br />
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ANSWER: SAVVY! SPEAK THEE BOON!<br />
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Question: Why do you call me "Man Thing"? <br />
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ANSWER: AYE, MAN THING. THOU ART A SUB MAN, CLEAR?<br />
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Question: No. Let it be understood that if I continue to request the boon of additional information from you, the same aforementioned standard applies, that of complete and total relief from any obligation between me and you whatsoever. Do you savvy?<br />
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ANSWER: AYE, SPEAK THEE, MAN THING.<br />
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Question: You think I am a Sub Man? I presume that implies that you are in some way superior to me? I mean, do you consider yourself some kind of higher form of man than me?<br />
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ANSWER: GO THEE SOFT, MAN THING! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> NOT BE A MAN HERE. THEE BE MAN OF SHADOW MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: I'm a man from Shadow Minnesota, and therefore a sub man, or man thing? Who are what are you? Remember our ongoing agreement regarding freely offered information.<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EE</span> NOT BE A MAN, BUT CERTAINLY OF THE KINGDOM.<br />
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Question: You're not a man, not a human being, but some kind of creature or entity of some kingdom? What kingdom is that?<br />
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QUESTION: TRUE KINGDOM, MAN THING. THEE FRIEND AND THEE RUCK IN MINNESOTA, BUT THEE ERR, MAN THING. THEE ERR!<br />
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Question: What friend are you talking about?<br />
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ANSWER: AYE, DR. 58, MAN THING.<br />
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Question: How do we err, as you say?<br />
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ANSWER: THEE AND DR. 58 RUCK IN MINNESOTA. YET THERE BE A TRUE KINGDOM, AYE?<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. What you seem to be saying is that I exist in some sort of lower, perhaps cruder version of Minnesota, a shadow version, but my universe is perhaps a sub universe of some kind of higher, or perhaps more legitimate Minnesota, and this is the true Kingdom. Is that the case?<br />
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ANSWER: AYE, MAN THING, TRUE KINGDOM! SAVVY!<br />
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Question: Well, Dr. 58 seems to be talking about some version of Minnesota that bears no resemblance to mine. Is the true Minnesota Dr. 58 seeks information about your Kingdom?<br />
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ANSWER: AYE, AYE, MAN THING! SAVVY!<br />
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Question: How it that you are able to listen in on our conversation? What is your method? And, incidentally, this is rather rude and inconsiderate behavior.<br />
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ANS<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WER</span>; NOT THEE BOON TO KNOW, MAN THING! THIS BE A NEW BOON.<br />
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Question: Then forget about it, I don’t want to know how you are listening in, I don’t even want to know why. Offer me this boon, but only if freely and without obligation in the extreme, total and complete sense of the meaning. Tell me your name.<br />
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ANSWER: ERR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">YEE</span>, DO! ERR, MAN THING! NOT BE THIS THY BOON!<br />
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Question: Well, then just what the hell do you want? And if you are draining my C-Chits, then you are coming under obligation to me, do you savvy?<br />
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ANSWER: C-CHIT FOR THEE SUB MAN, MAN THING! C-CHIT NOT FOR KINGDOM!<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Whaaaaat</span>-- <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">evvvvvverrrrr</span>! What do you want!!!!!!!!<br />
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ANSWER: TELL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">YEE</span> THY FRIEND, DR. 58, TO VISIT KINGDOM. DR. 58 SHOULD KINGDOM COME. HE SAVVY YOU.<br />
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Question: That’s what this is all about? You want me to use my connection with Dr. 58 to try to convince him to travel to your Kingdom, this region which you say is the “Real Minnesota” Dr. 58 is talking about?<br />
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ANS<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WER</span>: SAVVY THAT! I GEE THEE A BOON!<br />
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Question: You want me to sell out Dr. 58, and you will provide me with some kind of reward?<br />
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ANSWER: SAVVY! SAVVY, MAN THING!<br />
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Question: Ha, ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha! What will you do when he gets there? Perhaps clone him out into some kind of doppelganger, send him back to New York so he can suck out his mom and dad’s brains?<br />
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ANSWER: IGNORANT, MAN THING! CRUDE! NOT THEE BOON TO KNOW BUSINESS OF THE KINGDOM. SEND THEE DR. 58 HERE!<br />
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Question: I have no power to send him, nor will I recommend that he travel to his version of Minnesota, your Kingdom. If he chooses to go there of his own free will, that’s his business and none of mine. We are finished here.<br />
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ANSWER: SEE THEE UP, MAN THING! SEE THEE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DOONE</span>!<br />
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Question: Once again, and with much, much regret, I must remind you that we are prepared to enact Plan 9 less you cease and desist.<br />
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ANSWER: SAVVY ME THIS, PLAN 9, MAN THING. WHAT BE PLAN 9?<br />
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Question: You’ll understand it quite well after it rips your face off. Now good-bye.<br />
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<em>(That ended the communication with this entity. How curious! I wonder what is really going on?)</em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-83341588722920381572010-06-01T17:01:00.001-05:002010-06-19T16:52:09.104-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 9<em>(Note: The Dr. 58 session continue, here with some preliminaries eliminated)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, before we get bogged down in a million details, can we talk about the satellite disasters you mentioned earlier?<br />
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ANSWER:. IT WAS A PROJECT OF THE REICH. IT WAS A DISASTER FOR THEM. FRIGHTENING. IT SHATTERED THE POWER ORDER OF THE WORLD.<br />
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Question: Wow! How did it do that, I mean shatter the national world order?<br />
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ANSWER: IT LEFT THE NAZI TECHNOLOGICAL DOCTRINE IN QUESTION. IT SHOOK UP THE PSYCHE OF THE WORLD. IT CHANGED THE WAY PEOPLE VIEW THE ORDER OF NATIONS.<br />
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Question: What did the Nazi’s try to do?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH EXCITEMENT. THEY SOUGHT TO SET THEIR SATELLITE EYES UPON MINNESOTA FROM SPACE. THEY THOUGHT A NEW ERA WOULD FOLLOW.<br />
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Question: Let us back up a bit. Why was this a project of the Reich? Don’t American have satellite technology?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, OF COURSE NOT.<br />
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Question: That seems astounding to us. Here in our world, America is the premier nation in space exploration and technology. We are the only nation to travel to the moon. We have a gigantic space station, a space shuttle, satellites of all kinds. You say your America has none of this?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. WHAT YOU SAY IS AMAZING TO ME. DO THE NAZIS HOLD INFLUENCE IN YOUR AMERICA?<br />
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Question: No! As I have told you, we fought a lengthy world war to rid the world of the Nazis. What they stood for is considered heinous by just about everyone, all nation today. But you seem to equate Nazism with technology. Is that the case?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S MAKE TECHNOLOGY THEIR CENTRAL DOCTRINE.<br />
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Question: As you have said. But doesn’t America and other countries embrace technology as well?<br />
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ANSWER: NONE AS EXCLUSIVELY AS THE NAZIS. <br />
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Question: What would you say is the central doctrine of the American culture in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: WE DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL DOCTRINE. THAT IS OUR STRENGTH. TECHNOLOGY HAS PLACE, BUT NOT SWAY.<br />
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Question: Well, what level of technology would you say you have in your society?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS MOSTLY MACRO AND SO ABOVE THE MAJORITY. YOU ASK ABOUT THINGS I TAKE AS NORMAL.<br />
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Question: Well, do you have automobiles, computers, electricity, automated factories, telephones, you know, all that stuff?<br />
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ANSWER: IT’S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS ELECTRICITY, BUT THAT’S MORE ON THE MACRO SCALE THAN MICRO SCALE. <br />
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Question: The macro scale. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. You know what, you said that you have money in your society, but you seemed confused -- or amused -- that you or your parents would be concerned with obtaining or using money. I’m going to make a guess: Money, like technology in your world, is used on a macro scale of society and not a micro scale of general society? Am I right?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS SO WELL, YET IN OTHERS WAYS, YOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN A CHILD. YOU ARE STRANGE.<br />
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Question: Ha, ha! You’re starting to sound like my wife. But before we go too far astray again. Let’s get back to this satellite business. Do the Nazis have a very advanced ability to conduct remote sensing from space? That is, can their satellites peer down at the earth with great accuracy?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT WAS THE CASE, YES. I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK.<br />
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Question: When I think about it, this must have seemed very exciting. I mean, you said that even the air space over Minnesota is a no-fly zone. So the advent of space-based satellites must have been seen as an opportunity to shed light on one of the oldest mysteries in your world -- just what the hell is going on inside Minnesota, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD TREMBLED, AS WELL.<br />
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Question: Why?<br />
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ANSWER: IS THERE ANY WONDER? THEY WERE GOING TO ENCROACH ON THE FORBIDDEN, THE MOST MYSTERIOUS ASPECT OF THE WORLD. THEY WERE PLAYING GOD. STILL, IT CUTS BOTH WAYS IN THE AMERICAS.<br />
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Question: What do you mean cuts both ways?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE, AMERICANS HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM NAZI TECHNOLOGY, NOR THE WEAK FORCE OF THE MAYAN EMPIRE OR THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHARCHIMECS</span> FOR … FOR ALL OTHERS FEAR MINNESOTA AT THE HEART OF AMERICA.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhh</span>!!!! Dr. 58, just when we think we’re getting somewhere you throw in a major curve ball! The Weak Force of the Mayan Empire!!!! Mayan Empire! Don’t tell me that you have a Mayan Empire in your world!<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DON’T? WHO INHABITS THE LANDS TO THE SOUTH?<br />
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Question: A nation called Mexico! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhh</span>!!! I can’t stand it! Yes, there was a Mayan Empire there centuries ago, but they were devastated by the Spanish Conquistadors beginning in the 1500s. Only a few ruins of the Mayan Empire remain, and the Mayan people are scattered and marginalized. There culture destroyed. Nothing like this ever happened in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THE MAYANS WENT FROM STRONG FORCE TO WEAK, BUT RETAIN MUCH POWER.<br />
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Question: What do you mean by “strong” and “weak”? What exactly are you talking about there?<br />
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ANSWER: STRONG MAGIC, WEAK MAGIC.<br />
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Question: Oh my. What kind of magic are you talking about?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY ARE AN ANCIENT RACE OF ANCIENT POWERS AS VESTED TO THEM FROM THEIR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DEMI</span> GOD, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUETZAL</span>.<br />
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Question: Wow! You mean Quetzalcoatl, right?<br />
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ANSWER: SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I’M NOT AN EXPERT.<br />
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Question: Earlier you said your parents infused star water from the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Quetzal</span> Cluster. Is there a connection?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAYANS REGARD THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DEMI</span> GOD <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUETZAL</span> TO HAVE COME TO EARTH FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUEZTAL</span> STAR CLUSTER.<br />
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Question: Is this considered largely to be myth?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: Well, I mean, I’m wondering if there is any proof that <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Quetzal</span> came to earth from another star system, if this was considered to be a real event. Or let ,me put it this way, since anything seems to be possible here. Have there really been visitors from other planets to earth that you know of?<br />
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ANSWER: I THINK IT IS THE CASE THAT THE MAYAN GOD MAN CAME FROM THE STARS.<br />
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Question: Well, do they still have Quetzalcoatl’s spacecraft enshrined somewhere? Do they have obvious implements of alien technology or implements?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">QUETZAL</span> CAME FROM THE STARS IS MANIFEST.<br />
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Question: How so?<br />
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ANSWER: IT WOULD EXPLAIN MAYAN MAGIC.<br />
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Question: What kind of magic do they have?<br />
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ANSWER: OF GREAT SCOPE. THOUGH NOW WEAK AND NO LONGER STRONG.<br />
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Question: This is obviously such a huge can of worms, I’m not going to get pulled into it right now. Let’s put the Mayans aside for now and get back to the satellites. Can you summarize what happened in the satellite disaster? What was the main outcome? Wait a minute, wait a minute, you mentioned the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Charchimecs</span>. Who are they?<br />
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ANSWER: A LESSER NATION OF THE PYRAMID BUILDERS. THEY INHABIT THAT LAND BETWEEN AMERICA AND THE MAYAN NATION.<br />
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Question: Like maybe around Texas? Do you have a Texas, a state in America?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHARCHIMEC</span> CENTRAL TEMPLE CITY IS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TEXCHO</span>. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHARCHIMECS</span> ARE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OBSTREPERITES</span> AND INSURRECTIONISTS, BUT KEEP TO THEMSELVES.<br />
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Question: They are a violent people?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. BUT THEY ARE INWARD FOCUSED. THEY HAVE LITTLE TIME FOR THE MORE SUBTLE AND ELEGANT STARLIGHT CULTURE OF AMERICANS.<br />
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Question: Brother! Well, how do they get along with the Mayans?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAYANS ARE SUBTLE BEYOND THEM AS WELL.<br />
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Question: (Much drooling over wanting to know more, but determined to move on). Let’s just get back to the satellites. What happened? Just tell us, in a nutshell, what was the result of this Nazi attempt to examine Minnesota from space-based platforms?<br />
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ANSWER: CHAOS. TERROR. FEW NAZIS SURVIVED. MANY ON THE FRINGE OF THE PROJECT ESCAPED TO AMERICA AND WENT <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMAL</span>. SOME SOUGHT REFUGE WITH THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHARCHIMECS</span>. SOME APPEALED TO MAYAN MAGIC. SOME CRAZY NAZIS WENT TO MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhhhh</span>!!! What happened? What did the Nazi’s see? What information did they get from their satellite data? What did they see down in Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO SEE ANYTHING IN MINNESOTA, OR IF THEY DID IT WAS TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINING. EVERYONE WAS DEAD. AND MORE THAN DEAD.<br />
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Question: Who was dead? (Asking this while restraining ourselves from asking about “More than dead”)!<br />
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ANSWER; EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT. THE FACILITY WHERE THE INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED ON EARTH WAS … A NIGHTMARE.<br />
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Question: Where was the ground receiving station of the satellite telemetry?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW TELEMETRY. THE NAZI’S HAVE AN ISLAND NEAR THE EQUATOR. THEY CALL IT KRUPP. FROM THERE THEY RECEIVED THEIR INFORMATION FROM SPACE. KRUPP IS NO LONGER INHABITED.<br />
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Question: So the Nazi’s had these extensive facilities -- I suppose building and receiving stations and such on the Island of Krupp, and this was the central location where all the space based information obtained by scanning Minnesota was to be received and processed? Were there many people there?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. MAYBE 200 OR 300 NAZI TECHNOCRATS.<br />
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Question: Well how did it all unfold? When was the first indication that something went wrong?<br />
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ANSWER: AFTER INFORMATION BEGAN COMING DOWN TO KRUPP FROM SPACE, STRANGE EVENTS BEGAN TO OCCUR.<br />
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Question: Like what?<br />
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ANSWER: COMMUNICATION WITH EVERYONE ON KRUPP QUICKLY SILENCED.<br />
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Question: I assume the Krupp technocrats were communicating electronically with a home base, perhaps back in Europe, in Germany, or wherever the Nazi’s have their primary location.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU USE STRANGE TERMS. EUROPE?<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Arrggggg</span>! (Seriously not wanting to get bogged down again). Well, wherever the primary Nazi cities are located. Were the Krupp technocrats in communication with outside facilities?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. AND THERE WERE MANY NAZI SHIPS OFF SHORE, IN THE SEA SURROUNDING KRUPP.<br />
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Question: Okay, they start getting data from space about Minnesota, communication goes dead. What then?<br />
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ANSWER: IT ALMOST SEEMS …. WRONG … TO SPEAK OF IT. FROM THE SHIPS BLACK SMOKE COULD BE SEEN RISING FROM ONE OF THE KRUPP ISLAND BUILDINGS … THEN …<br />
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Question: Yes? And then?<br />
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ANSWER: AN ABOMINATION CAME FORTH. THREE MEN BECOME ONE MAN. BUT NOW WITH WINGS. AN ABOMINATION MAN. THREE MEN JOINED, ALMOST NAKED WITH LONG WINGS OF LEATHER. DANGLING TENTACLES. IT FLEW TOWARD A NAZI SHIP.<br />
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Question: Good lord. What are we talking about here? Let’s try to get this straight. Somehow, through some sorcery or devilry three Nazi human beings were fused into a single body, conjoined as some kind of grotesque flying man creature with wings and tentacles?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THEY STILL HAD SHREDS OF THEIR UNIFORMS ON. THESE WERE THREE NAZI MEN FUSED, TRANSFORMED INTO A MONSTER.<br />
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Question: And it flew at the ship? What did it do?<br />
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ANSWER: IT CAME AT THE SAILORS ON BOARD. TWO OF THE HEADS WERE WEEPING AND WAILING AND CALLING FOR HELP. ONE WAS CRYING OUT FOR HIS MOTHER. THE HEAD IN THE MIDDLE WAS RAVENOUS FOR HUMAN FLESH.<br />
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Question: What did it do? Attack sailors on the deck of one of the ships?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, WHILE TWO OF THE MELDED NAZI HEADS WAILED AND CALLED FOR MERCY, THE ABOMINATION BODY SET UPON SAILORS ON DECK SPREADING CHAOS AND PANIC. A SAILOR WAS PLUCKED FROM THE DECK BY TENTACLES. ONE OF THE HEADS BEGAN FEEDING ON THE SAILOR. THE OTHER TWO HEADS CRIED OUT, BEGGING THEIR HEAD MATE COMPANION TO STOP.<br />
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Question: Oh good lord! Well, what happened then.<br />
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ANSWER: THROUGH SOME EVIL DEVICE, THE MONSTER BEGAN EMITTING THE NAZI ANTHEM.<br />
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Question: ?????? What!!!!!!!!! ??????<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAN ABOMINATION HOVERED ABOVE A NAZI SHIP, FEASTING ON MAN FLESH. ACROSS ITS BELLY THERE APPEARED A SERIES OF SLITS, LIKE GILLS. FROM THESE GILL SLITS CAME LOUD MUSIC, THE NAZI ANTHEM.<br />
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Question: Egad, what a yarn! The thing added psychological fuel to its attack by mocking them with their national anthem? God, for bizarre! Well, then what happened?<br />
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ANSWER: THIS WAS THE FIRST OF MANY HORRORS. EVENTS ESCALATED AND DETERIORATED FROM THERE. THE SITUATION BECAME WORSE ON A MUCH GRANDER SCALE FOR THE NAZIS AFTER KRUPP WAS DEVASTATED BY ABOMINATIONS.<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, I would guess all of this information would be highly classified beyond being highly classified and so secret that almost no one should know about it. How is it that you know so many intimate details of what happened out there on Krupp Island?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE, FROM THE DEFECTORS, THE MANY WHO FLED THE NAZI REGIME AND WENT <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMAL</span> IN THE UNITED STATES AND ELSEWHERE. THEIR STORY SPREAD <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">LIK</span>E FIRE AROUND THE WORLD.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-78394625473011267392010-05-31T17:16:00.000-05:002010-06-19T17:17:56.610-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 10 (Interlude)Opening Statement: Mommy? Mommy, are you in the Nothing Chamber?<br />
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ANSWER: MOMMY IS HERE FOR YOU, SWEETIE.<br />
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Question: Mommy, you are aware now of our dialogue with Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: AS YOU ASKED FOR MY OPINION, AND SO I APPRAISED MYSELF. <br />
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Question: Thank you, Mommy. Mommy, I hope you are not offended, as we have been adopting a policy to limit your influence in the Dr. 58 discussions. We seek to keep the Dr. 58 sessions uncontaminated, so to speak. But, Mommy, we ask you at this time if you would offer any purely objective advice to us. Do you?<br />
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ANSWER: HONEY, BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT.<br />
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Question: What do you mean by that, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: MY DARLING, YOU PARTICIPATE AS ONE SITTING ON A TREE BRANCH WAVING IN A BREEZE. AND SO YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS CONFRONTS A WAVERING SPECTRUM OF DIMENSION.<br />
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Question: Now, purely for the sake of discussion -- so, just as there are many version of the United States across the spectrum of parallel universes, perhaps then there is a spectrum of Dr. 58s, and so we may be receiving information that perhaps, at times, is not as focused as it should be on a particular Dr. 58, but a spectrum of Dr. 58s?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, DEAR.<br />
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Question: Mommy, how should I correct for dimensional drift, if even I should?<br />
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ANSWER: BE AWARE OF YOUR INTENT. SECOND, BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT.<br />
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Question: Mommy, I have no intent, other than to receive information and to see that information.<br />
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ANSWER: THEN SEE IT, WHILE KNOWING.<br />
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Question: Tell me more, Mommy.<br />
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ANSWER: I TELL YOU TO BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT. I DON’T ASK YOU TO JUDGE IT. I SAY BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT. <br />
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Question: Why not judge it?<br />
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ANSWER: WHY INDEED?<br />
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Question: I’ll think about this, Mommy. Thank you, Mommy.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU'RE WELCOME, PRECIOUS.<br />
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Question: Good-bye, Mommy.<br />
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GOOD-BYE.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-31891190064098370812010-05-30T17:20:00.000-05:002010-06-19T17:23:46.219-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 11Question: How did the Nazis deal with the flying abomination? Did they blow it out of the sky? Do you know what I mean? Did they shoot it?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY PENETRATED IT WITH EXPLOSIVE NEEDLE. THE CREATURE BURST FROM WITHIN. BLACK SPEW RAINED DOWN UPON THE SHIP, SPLATTERING SAILORS. MANY ERUPTED IN VIOLENT SEIZURES. SOME WENT MAD. THOSE WERE THE FORTUNATE. <br />
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Question: Fortunate? I'm almost afraid to ask what happened to the unlucky ones.<br />
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ANSWER: LIMBS SPRUNG FROM THEIR HEADS, LONG ARMS WITH <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TALONED</span> HANDS. THESE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN GROPING FOR OTHERS, RIPPING AT FLESH. THERE WAS CHAOS. AND SOMETHING STRANGE.<br />
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Question: And something strange!!!! And something strange!!! What could be stranger than a throng of frenzied Nazi sailors thrashing about on a ship with <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">taloned</span> appendages hatching from their heads??!!<br />
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ANSWER: NOT ALL OF THESE GROPED FOR VICTIMS. SOME BEGAN TO DANCE IN A CIRCLE. IN THIS MIDST OF THE DANCERS THERE APPEARED A GOLDEN-HAIRED CHILD, A NORMAL HUMAN GIRL, BUT OF EXTREME BEAUTY. SHE CARRIED A PIKE OF HAMMERED SILVER.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uhhhh</span> .... <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Yeesh</span>! Okay, that is strange. Dr. 58, you are unrelentingly strange. A pike of hammered silver, you say? Nice touch. So in all this frenzied chaos, Nazi men with demon arms sprung from their heads, some start dancing around and there appears a golden-haired little girl. What was she doing there?<br />
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ANSWER: SHE RAISED THE SILVER PIKE HIGH AND BEGAN TO SING, USING THE NAZI TECHNO TONGUE: <br />
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GIVE ME A BOX<br />
WITH NO LOCKS<br />
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GIVE ME A CLOCK<br />
WITH NO TICK <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TOCK</span><br />
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PLANT A REED<br />
WITHOUT A SEED<br />
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SEE THE SKY<br />
WITH NO EYES<br />
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SEE THE GROUND<br />
BUT DON’T LOOK DOWN<br />
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Question: (Moaning and groaning, or minds swirling from the sheer madness of Dr. 58's tale, never being able to guess where he is going or what he’s going to say next. We nevertheless pressed on, not quite sure what to ask next, so we just punted). What then, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: AS THE CHILD GODDESS SANG, MANY MEN WERE SEEN TO TURN INSIDE OUT. THEIR ENTIRE FORMS BECAME AS A WET SUCKING ORIFICE. OTHER MEN, POSSESSED, PUSHED THEIR SHIPMATES INTO THE ORIFICES AND WERE SWALLOWED. <br />
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Question: And all of this triggered because they downloaded satellite data from scanning Minnesota! What eventually happened to this ship?<br />
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ANSWER: MEN SWALLOWED BY THE ORIFICE DEMONS WERE REGURGITATED AS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ANTHROMORPHS</span>. THEY PURSUED ANYONE STILL HUMAN, COMMITTED HEINOUS ACTS OF DESECRATION UPON THEM. SCORES OF MEN JUMPED INTO THE SEA. THE MONSTERS COMMANDEERED THE SHIP. <br />
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Question: So the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Anthromorphs</span> took over the ship? What were they going to do? Run amok like pirates to terrorize the high seas?<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS. A SISTER SHIP, A NAZI FRIGATE, FIRED A PLASMA BOLT UPON THE SHIP. IT'S CORE IGNITED. IT EXPLODED. <br />
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Question: Well, to put it mildly, things sure went bad for the Nazi's and there little remote sensing project! But I take it this was only the first part of some very bad stuff that was going on Krupp Island, am I correct?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF THE RHINE. THE NAZI FLOTILLA WITHDREW AND FORMED NAVAL QUARANTINE AROUND KRUPP.<br />
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Question: That was the name of that ill-fated ship? The Rhine?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Did any further flying abominations emerge from Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. A NUMBER OF NAZI TECHNOCRATS WERE OBSERVED RUNNING FROM A COMPOUND. THEY WERE PANICKED. THEY RAN TO THE BEACH AND WADED INTO THE WATER, WAVING TO THE SHIPS, PLEADING RESCUE FROM KRUPP.<br />
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Question: Were they picked up?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZIS SHOT THEM ALL.<br />
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Question: Why!?<br />
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ANSWER. DO YOU WONDER? THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HUMAN BEINGS.<br />
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Question: Maybe they were feared to be doppelgangers?<br />
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ANSWER: ONE COULD NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE.<br />
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Question: Oh brother. So the Nazi's must have felt like they had really uncorked something utterly, massively evil and deplorable. Perhaps a little bit of Minnesota in the middle of an ocean island. They must have been desperate to contain this entire debacle to Krupp Island, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT THEY HAD PROBLEMS. BEFORE THE RHINE EXPLODED AN OVAL JET PLANER LAUNCHED FROM DECK AND DISAPPEARED INTO THE HORIZON. THE NAZI'S ATTEMPTED TO SHOOT IT DOWN, BUT FAILED.<br />
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Question: (Oval jet planer! Drools, wants to know more, but decides to move on). So it may have been ordinary men or some abomination that escaped from the Rhine by aircraft ... was this oval jet planer ever found?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES AWAY ON <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CORMOR</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HUITE</span>. THE CRAFT WAS ABANDONED.<br />
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Question: Where is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Cormor</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Huite</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: A LARGE ISLAND NATION SOUTH OF THE AMERICAS.<br />
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Question: If they would have been real human escapees, I imagine they would have reported in, or what was the case here?<br />
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ANSWER: UNKNOWN. THE PILOTS MAY HAVE DEFECTED. OR PERHAPS ABOMINATIONS WERE UNLEASHED UPON <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CORMOR</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">HUITE</span>.<br />
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Question: What a mess! Dr. 58, this incident with the beautiful child goddess. It strikes me in an intuitive way. It’s seems such a jarring image, such a weird incongruity amid all the dark madness of that event. What do you think about that? I mean, this must be cause for much speculation?<br />
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ANSWER: OLD CAVE HAS SPOKEN OF IT.<br />
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Question: Old Cave, the former Father <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Reston</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Vromin</span> who is believed to have returned from Minnesota? <br />
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ANSWER: YES, OLD CAVE GAVE A TEACHING TO THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMALS</span> HERE IN NEW YORK. HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THE GOLDEN GODDESS CHILD. OLD CAVE OFFERED THE PROFOUND AGONY OF THE ETERNAL ITERATION.<br />
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Question: What do you mean by that? He offered the Profound Agony of the Eternal Iteration? I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. Can you expand?<br />
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ANSWER: BY WAY OF UNDERSTANDING THE GOLDEN CHILD. OLD CAVE SUGGESTS THE GIRL INVOKED THE ETERNAL AGONY -- THAT BECAUSE OF THE REALITY OF INFINITY, ALL REALITIES MUST ENDLESSLY REITERATE.<br />
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Question: You mean that because time and space are infinite, everything that has ever happened must sooner of later happen again -- given an infinite amount of time, and endless possibilities of reality, that eventually everything that has happened must happen again and again, and without end?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THIS IS THE AGONY. THE GOLDEN CHILD INVOKED THE ULTIMATE AGONY.<br />
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Question: But why in this case, in this situation? Was she trying to send some kind of greater message?<br />
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ANSWER: INTERPRETATION AND SPECULATION IS ENDLESS. ALL THINGS CONCERNING MINNESOTA ARE IRRATIONAL.<br />
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Question: Maybe Old Cave is full of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">crappola</span>, that is, maybe he does not know what he is talking about?<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS. PERHAPS THE GOLDEN CHILD REVELED IN IRRATIONALITY.<br />
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(Note: At this point the session was getting rather difficult because I was having a great deal of trouble seeing the Ouija board. As I have stated elsewhere, I am a lifetime sufferer of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">dysmetropsia</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">micropsia</span>, a condition in which, on rare occasions, everything in my field of vision begins to appear very tiny -- like you are looking at things through the wrong end of the telescope. [This is sometimes called Alice in Wonderland Syndrome]<br />
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Staring at the letters on the Ouija board for a long time sometimes triggers the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">micropsia</span> -- my hands look very far away, touching a tiny Ouija board with tiny letters that seem to dance a waver. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Micropsia</span> if often followed by a migraine headache. There can also be a sort of dizzy “out of it” feeling -- everything seems strange.<br />
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It’s interesting, though. If you have ever read Carl Jung’s “Man and His Symbols” there is a part in the book where Jung describes a man who was traveling in Russia by train. He did not read or understand the Cyrillic alphabet, yet when he stared at the letters, he was surprised to discover that these meaningless symbols led him into a kind of trance state and caused him to began having intense inward fantasies.<br />
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This is similar to something I experience when the Ouija session get very long, which also can trigger <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">micropsia</span>. I mention this because of the strikingly dream-like quality of the image of the Golden Child and her eerie sing-song poem in the midst of madness -- this may give fuel to those of you who are arguing for a subconscious explanation as the source of this material -- although I have many problems with the subconsciousness scenario -- but at the same time, I thought it best to lay all my cards on the table for this particular session -- because of the dream-like flavor it seems to have.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-91837335537714880472010-05-29T17:26:00.001-05:002010-06-19T17:29:10.593-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 12Question: Dr. 58, will you speak with us?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, WOULD THEE PREPARE THY STAFF?<br />
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Question: Uh oh, this is not Dr. 58 is it?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THE STAFF, SIR?<br />
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Question: I‘m not sure what we’re talking about here?<br />
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ANSWER: I WOULD ADVISE YOU ON THE PREPARATION OF THY STAFF.<br />
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Question: Who are you?<br />
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ANSWER: A TRAVELER, A WANDERER, OF THE STAFF GUILD. I WOULD INSTRUCT THEE ON THY STAFF.<br />
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Question: What kind of staff, like a walking stick, or a staff, say, for a shepherd or maybe a wizard?<br />
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ANSWER: YOUR PERSONAL STAFF, KIND SIR. ARE THEE READY?<br />
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Question: Well, can you tell us if this has anything to do with Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, SIR.<br />
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Question: In what way is this connected?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, A FINE STAFF IS ALWAYS TRUE AND NOT TO BE WITHOUT IN ANY EVENT, BE THY WANDERING IN MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Perhaps you’ve got the wrong idea. I don’t live in exactly the same Minnesota as the one of Dr. 58’s world. Perhaps you are confused. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER: IT’S A SMALL MATTER, A WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. NOW, TO THY STAFF.<br />
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Question: Wait a minute, what will I owe you or have to exchange for accepting advice on the production of my staff?<br />
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ANSWER: NOTHING, SIR! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TIS</span> MY JOY!<br />
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Question: I apologize if I seem rude, but a number of times our conversations with Dr. 58 have been interrupted by an entity whom refers to us as “Man Thing,” and who has offered us a boon under rather suspicious circumstances. You are not that same being, are you?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, NO AND NO! I ASK NOTHING. I HAVE SORING HOPES FOR THE PRODUCTION OF YOUR STAFF.<br />
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Question: Forgive me for pressing the point, but this other party whom I just mentioned sought to conspire with me to convince Dr. 58 to travel to Minnesota. Do you have any such interest, or any interest in Dr. 58 at all?<br />
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ANSWER: NONE, SIR! THE YOUNG SQUIRE DR. 58 IS NOW IN POSSESSION OF A FINE STAFF, PER MY GUIDANCE AND MY HEART IS FULFILLED<br />
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Question: Indeed, you seem kind and to have a genuine passion for the joys of owning a fine staff, and in teaching others in obtaining their own personal staffs. But let me ask you this. How is that you have come into or conversation with Dr. 58? I mean, what is your connection?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR I MAKE NO JUDGMENTS. I PERCEIVED THEE TO BE WITHOUT A STAFF, AND SAW OPPORTUNITY.<br />
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Question: Well, are you listening in on my conversation with Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT THAT, SIR. I ONLY TAKE NOTICE OF A GENTLEMAN WITH NO STAFF.<br />
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Question: You say you a member of some kind of Guild? Is this a Guild of craftsman dedicated to the making of staffs?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, SIR, SHALL WE BEGIN?<br />
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Question: Not just yet. Tell us about yourself. What is your name?<br />
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ANSWER: MY NAME HARDLY MATTERS.<br />
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Question: Will you tell us anyway, in friendship?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GEFRAIM</span>.<br />
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Question: Okay, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span>, well met! Where are you from? Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, THE KINGDOM PROPER.<br />
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Question: You mean you are in the “Real Minnesota” rather than my shadow version, as others have called it?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, IT IS BUT A WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. THE STAFF?<br />
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Question: How long did it take you to learn your craft of making staffs? Were you apprenticed to the Guild?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, YES, I WAS BORN INTO THE GUILD.<br />
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Question: How long does it take to master the craft of staff building?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, IT DIFFERS FOR ALL.<br />
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Question: Please take no offense, but do you have any references? I mean, can you direct me to perhaps a Guild Master who trained you so that he can vouch for your work?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, WITH HONOR. YOU MAY SPEAK WITH <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FURSTUS</span>.<br />
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Question: Wonderful! Can you help us speak with him?<br />
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ANSWER: A TWITCH OF THE STAFF, SIR, SPEAK.<br />
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Question: Do we now speak with the Staff Guild Master <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Furstus</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: JUST SO.<br />
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Question: Well met, Master <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Furstus</span>! Tell us, is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> a competent member of the Guild? Can he provide me with a staff I can use with confidence?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GEFRAIM</span> STANDS AS THE GUILD.<br />
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Question: Why is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> offering to help me build a staff? What is it he or you or the Guild is getting out of this?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, THE GUILD PERFORMS ITS FUNCTION, NOTHING MORE.<br />
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Question: How about if I offer you some Consciousness Chits, or C-Chits, as payment, or at least a token of my thanks?<br />
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ANSWER: C-CHITS ARE NOT FOR THE KINGDOM, SIR.<br />
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Question: So I have heard. Well, is there anyway I can express my thanks for this information? I would not have an exchange take place and disrupt any balances.<br />
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ANSWER: I LEAVE THAT TO YOU, SIR.<br />
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Question: Okay, well then, perhaps we can speak with <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> again?<br />
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ANSWER: A TWITCH OF THE STAFF, SIR.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL IS ORDER, SIR? SHALL WE BEGIN?<br />
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Question: Yes, please, and let it be noted we will be providing you with a free will offering in exchange for your service. Agreed?<br />
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ANSWER: AS YOU WISH, SIR, AND NOW TO THE STAFF.<br />
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Question: By all means, proceed.<br />
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SIR, I PERCEIVE THY RESONANCE IS THE WILLOW. SELECT THEE A FINE PORTION ONE HAND BREADTH HIGHER THAN YOUR OWN HEAD, SIR.<br />
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Question: The willow, you say? Should it be a live cutting or a cast off limb, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, APPROACH THE WILLOW AND LET IT TELL YOU. SELECT.<br />
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Question: I think I can do that. After I have selected my cutting of willow for my staff, what next?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, SIX THINGS:<br />
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1. PEEL BARK FROM THE CUTTING.<br />
2. JOIN THE CUTTING WITH A COATING OF THY BLOOD.<br />
3. SUN DRY.<br />
4. CHARGE WITH THE EARTH: BURY THY STAFF FOR ONE DAY AND ONE NIGHT.<br />
5. APPLY THE RESIN OF THE GREEN NEEDLE TREE BOILED IN NUT OIL<br />
6. ATTUNE THY STAFF: ALIGN WITH THE POLE STAR, FOR ONE COMPLETE ROTATION OF THE HEAVENS. LET NOT THE STAFF TOUCH THE GROUND.<br />
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SIR, THY STAFF IS YOURS.<br />
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Question: A few questions. When you say that I should join the staff with a coating of my blood, does that mean I should basically paint the staff completely from top to bottom with my own blood?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, THIS WILL JOIN YOUR ENERGY TO THE STAFF.<br />
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Question: Very good. And this varnish, you suggest. Does it have to be this tree resin boiled in nut oil? I have available to me a number of varnishes, as manufactured here in my world by various Guilds. For example, there is a fine Guild called Ace Hardware from which I can obtain a resin varnish for my staff.<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, PREPARE THINE OWN VARNISH.<br />
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Question: Okay, and you say I should align my staff with the Pole Star? Am I supposed to build some kind of holder or perch on which the staff can lie as it attunes to the heavenly rotation?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, THAT IS WISE.<br />
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Question: I tell you what. As it happens, I own a Newtonian reflecting telescope, and it just so happens that the mount for this instrument is aligned with the Pole Star. What if I remove the telescope from the mount and rest my staff if place? Would this be okay?<br />
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ANSWER; SIR, THE TELESCOPE IMPLEMENT IS UNKNOWN TO ME. USE TWO NEUTRAL STICK POSTS. TIE THY STAFF TO THE POSTS WITH TWISTED GRASS. SIGHT CAREFULLY TO ALIGN WITH THE POLE STAR.<br />
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Question: Should the top of the staff point toward the Pole Star?<br />
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ANSWER: SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span>, I accept your gift of instruction, and in exchange, I provide thee with an Energy Bar Tool. Will you accept?<br />
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ANSWER: WITH HONOR, SIR. GENTLE WINDS, SIR.<br />
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Gentle Winds, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span>! Good-bye!<br />
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Good-bye.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-79633765674882253562010-05-27T17:38:00.000-05:002010-06-19T17:43:28.128-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 13<em>We intended to get on with the satellite disaster information, but as you will see, a couple of side questions quickly distracted us and led us into a different direction for a long session. What’s frustrating about the Dr. 58 session is how extremely easy it is to get carried away by some interesting side issue. No doubt, a lot of you will find this session rather ridiculous, but here it is.</em><br />
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<em>(Eliminating some preliminaries, the session begins.)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, can you tell us what you look like?<br />
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ANSWER: WHY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THAT?<br />
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Question: We’re just curious about you. We feel we’ve come to know you better and naturally want to know more about you.<br />
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ANSWER: I WOULD NOT GIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION, FOR FEAR OF HEX.<br />
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Question: But you say you have the protection of Codicil 13 of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Verdantic</span> mysteries, so why are you afraid?<br />
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ANSWER: IT’S A PRECAUTION. I WOULD NOT TEST IT.<br />
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Question: But certainly by this time in our many conversations, you have developed some trust of us and understand that we are only curious about other worlds, such as yours, which is strange to us. We have no power to hex you. What do you say?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MAY BE HARMLESS, BUT YOUR CURIOSITY SEEMS AVARICIOUS. YOUR THIRST FOR INFORMATION IS UNUSUAL.<br />
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Question: Well, we’re guilty on that charge, but again, that’s natural because of the extraordinary nature of the things you tell us about. For us, Minnesota is a normal place with none of the highly paranormal, weird and strange stuff you talk about. Does it not seem natural to you that we are very curious?<br />
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ANSWER: I SUPPOSE THAT COULD BE THE CASE.<br />
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Question: Will you tell us anything about yourself? Like your real name?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT AT THIS TIME.<br />
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Question: What is the significance of the Dr. 58 moniker?<br />
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ANSWER: AGAIN, I ADHERE TO CODICIL 13.<br />
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Question: Very well. Can you tell us what you do for fun?<br />
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ANSWER: LIKE MANY PEOPLE, I PLAY PEPPER BALL.<br />
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Question: What is that?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DON’T HAVE IT? IT IS THE MOST POPULAR SPORT IN AMERICA.<br />
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Question: No. We have things like baseball and football, and many other games involving play with a ball. You call your game Pepper Ball. That sounds intriguing. How is it played, if you can summarize briefly?<br />
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ANSWER: 12 PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM. A <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN ON EACH END. IT IS PLAYED INSIDE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WIK</span> CAGE, OF COURSE. PLAYERS ATTEMPT TO STRIKE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN WITH THE PEPPER BALL. <br />
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Question: Whoa! That’s a bit too brief for us to get a good idea. Let’s get some specific details. What is this Pepper Ball? What does it look like? For example, is it round or oblong, or how big is it, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: THE PEPPER BALL IS ROUND ABOUT THE SIZE OF AN APPLE. DO YOU HAVE APPLES?<br />
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Question: Yes! Go on. <br />
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ANSWER: THE PEPPER BALLS CONTAINS THE STINGING PEPPER FLUID, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Wait a minute! Assume we know absolutely nothing about this because we don’t! The Pepper Ball contains a stinging fluid!!?? What is it made from?<br />
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ANSWER: INSIDE THE PEPPER BALL IS A FLUID INFUSED WITH EXTRACTS OF VARIOUS NOXIOUS BURNING WEEDS AND EXTREMELY HOT PEPPER EXTRACTS OF MAYAN ORIGIN.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uhh</span>.. Well… Oh <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">jeepers</span> … just tell us more, could you?<br />
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ANSWER: THE SKIN OF THE PEPPER BALL IS A SEMI-TOUGH MEMBRANE WHICH BURSTS WHEN HURLED WITH SUFFICIENT FORCE AT THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Oy</span>! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Oy</span>! So there are 12 players on each team. I assume you pass the Pepper Ball back and forth as you work it down … a court … which we assume is inside this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Wik</span> Cage … and the goal is to throw it at the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man. Is this right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE PLAYING AREA WITHIN THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WIK</span> CAGE IS THE MALL.<br />
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Question: So, the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man is kind of a goalie positioned at either end of the Pepper Ball Mall playing area?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN STALKS THE AREA AT EACH END OF THE MALL, YES. HE SEEKS TO AVOID THE PEPPER BALL.<br />
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Question: And the object of Pepper Ball is to throw the Pepper Ball at the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man so that a stinging liquid bursts forth … and then what? It causes him great stinging pain, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN IS NAKED, OF COURSE. THE PEPPER FLUID CAUSES GREAT PAIN, BURNING HIS SKIN.<br />
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Question: (Lots of groans). I’m sorry, Dr. 58, but you can’t imagine how ridiculous this all sounds to us. But, anyway, does this Pepper Fluid cause severe skin damage, or what? <br />
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ANSWER: THE AFFECT IS LONG-LASTING, EXTREMELY PAINFUL BUT TEMPORARY. A STRIKE TO THE GENITALS OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN IS HIGHLY DESIRABLE FOR THE OPPOSING TEAM.<br />
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Question: I’ll bet! That would really make him cry out! The old Pepper Sauce to the business section! Is being the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man a voluntary role, or is this part of the game reserved for criminals in your society undergoing some kind of punishment?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, TO BE A <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN IS A HIGH HONOR. THE BEST <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MEN ARE HIGHLY REVERED. THOSE OF GREAT OBESITY AND NIMBLENESS ARE HELD IN EXULTED ESTEEM.<br />
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Question: Wait a minute, so the ideal <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man is a big fat guy, but who is also quick on his feet? And he runs around naked trying to avoid getting pelted with a ball full of Pepper Oil!!! Please, please, please, please, stop bull**<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">tting</span> us, Dr. 58!! We can’t stand it! You’ve had your laugh, now tell the truth!!<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU. I AM DESCRIBING OUR SPORT, AS YOU ASKED.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Yeesh</span>!! Well, okay, if this Pepper Ball is capable of bursting on contact, how do the players on each team toss it around to each other without it blowing up in their hands, do you know what I mean?<br />
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ANSWER: BASKET RACKETS ARE USED TO TOSS THE BALL BETWEEN PLAYERS. IT TAKE GREAT SKILL TO CONTROL THE VELOCITY OF THE PEPPER BALL. IT SOMETIMES BURSTS ON PLAYERS RESULTING IN PENALTY.<br />
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Question: Are all the players naked?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, THEY WEAR PEPPER BALL SUIT AND HARNESS.<br />
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Question: What do you mean by harness? What kind of harness?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. EACH PLAYER IS CONNECTED BY ELASTIC VINE TO THE LATTICE WORK ABOVE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WIK</span> CAGE. DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN?<br />
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Question: No, not really. Are you saying that each player as some kind of elastic, sort of bungee cord or rope hooked up their uniforms somehow?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW BUNGEE, BUT YES, A ROPE, OF SORTS MADE FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">KIBBUE</span> VINE, A VERY ELASTIC VINE THAT ALLOWS THE PLAYERS TO LEAP INTO THE AIR AS THEY MOVE UP AND DOWN THE MALL.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uhhhhhhhhhh</span>... Well, where is this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Kibbue</span> Vine attached to the players?<br />
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ANSWER: IN THE LOWER BACK AT THE CENTER OF GRAVITY OF THE PLAYER, ALLOWING HIM TO LEAP UP AND DOWN.<br />
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Question: So, I’m trying to get a picture of this. The player is in a harness, hooked to an elastic vine, and this vine is suspended from a lattice work -- the top of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Wik</span> Cage? Is there a mechanism for the vine to move along the lattice work where it attaches to the top of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Wik</span> Cage. Do you know what I mean, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, AT THE TOP THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">KIBBUE</span> VINE IS CONNECTED BY ROLLERS WHICH GLIDE ALONG THE TOP LATTICE WORK OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WIK</span> CAGE.<br />
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Question: Well, with 24 guys running around, don’t these vines get tangled up?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. ALL STAY WITHIN THEIR ALLEYS.<br />
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Question: So they can only move up and down the mall, not side to side?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, THEY HAVE WAY TO MOVE SIDE TO SIDE. IT REQUIRES GREAT SKILL FOR ALL.<br />
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(Note: At this point our friend, Eugene, who is an engineer, made a good observation. He said that in order for the Pepper Ball players to bounce on their elastic vines, there must be a way to maintain tension in the vines. Eugene wanted us to ask how this works).<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, for the players to be able to use the vines for jumping, there must be some tension in the vine, do you know what we mean? I mean, if a Pepper Ball player is attached to the vine, and if he runs along the floor of your playing area, the Mall, how is it that tension is maintained in the vine? Do you understand what we are asking?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE BOOT OF THE PEPPER BALL PLAYER IS MAGNETIZED AND SO ADHERES TO THE SURFACE OF THE MALL. IT REQUIRES GREAT SKILL TO MAINTAIN BALANCE BETWEEN SURFACE AND AERIAL MANEUVERS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. So the Pepper <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Baller</span> sticks to the floor with magnetized boot soles, but can, at will, release from the floor to make a <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Kibbue</span> Vine leap? How is the release triggered?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAGNETIC EFFECT IS OVERCOME BY THE LEAP OF THE PEPPER BALL PLAYERS. YOU NEED STRONG LEG MUSCLES, ALONG WITH FINESSE OF FOOTWORK. AS I SAID, PEPPER BALL IS A HIGHLY SKILLED SPORT.<br />
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Question: I’ll bet. Are the bottom of the boots, the magnetized soles flexible, or rigid?<br />
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ANSWER: FLEXIBLE.<br />
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Question: So let me get this straight: There are 12 players on each side. All are slung from flexible harnesses inside some kind of large cage. The players move up and down the Mall, passing the Pepper Ball to each other using basket rackets. They also leap up and down -- which I have to admit, sounds rather wild and exciting. The object is to get near the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man and sling the Pepper Ball at his fat, naked body, causing him serious skin pain. What then? When you hit the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man, do you get points, as in a score, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: THE OBJECT IS THE SUBMISSION OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN. WHEN HE CAN NO LONGER ENDURE THE PAIN, HE OFFERS HIMSELF IN PROSTRATION. THE GAME IS OVER. THE WINNERS LATHE HIM IN A SOOTHING EMOLLIENT TO HONOR HIS PLAY.<br />
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Question: This emollient, it takes away the sting of the Pepper liquid?<br />
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ANSWER: IN A DAY, OR SO, YES.<br />
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Question: Well, that’s a very sportsman-like gesture for the winners to wash their opposing track man in a soothing emollient.<br />
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ANSWER: YES. PEPPER BALL IS A GAME OF DIGNITY AND HONOR.<br />
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Question: Why is he called the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE OF THE ORIGIN OF THE TERM.<br />
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Question: So, this big fat <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man just sort of roams about in his own territory on each end of the Mall and when opposing player approach, he tries to evade being hit with a Pepper Ball?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. I AM SURPRISED YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS GAME.<br />
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Question: You say that you play this game. What team are you on?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WASPMEN</span> OF KER.<br />
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Question: Cool name, and appropriate. A bet you guys really know how to bring the sting! Are here different levels of the sport? I mean, are there professional leagues and amateur leagues, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. PEPPER BALL IS PLAYED IN OUR SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: Well, is your team one of the best in New York, a dominant team, or what? Do you have national championships?<br />
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ANSWER: WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM. WE HAVE BROUGHT MANY <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MEN TO SUBMISSION.<br />
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Question: What do you play for? Pride, or money, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WAT YOU MEAN. PEPPER BALL IS A GAME. WE PLAY IT FOR SPORT. THERE IS SOME ADULATION.<br />
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Question: What position do you play on the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> of Ker?<br />
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ANSWER: I FAVOR THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">MIDLEAP</span> POSITION.<br />
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Question: Do you have a mighty <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man? Is he very fat, and can he endure great suffering? Is he nimble?<br />
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ANSWER: WE HIGHLY VALUE OUR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN.<br />
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Question: What is his name? I bet a good <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man is difficult to find, yes?<br />
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ANSWER: I WOULD NOT TELL YOU HIS NAME. HE KNOWS NOT OF CODICIL 13. YES, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN ARE VALUED.<br />
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Question: You know, it seems that since the object of Pepper Ball is to strike a moving man by hurling a ball, it would make much more sense if he was a real skinny guy, and thus more difficult to hit. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER: BY TRADITION, THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN IS OF WIDE GIRTH.<br />
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Question: Okay. What if you hit him in the eyes?<br />
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ANSWER: THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN WEARS PROTECTIVE EYE GUARDS.<br />
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Question: So a groin shot is highly valued. Why is that? Because it can cause him to submit faster?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: How many Pepper Ball strikes can the average <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man endure?<br />
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ANSWER: IT VARIES GREATLY. THE MIGHTY ENDURE MUCH.<br />
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Question: Okay, we’re very tired, Dr. 58. Thank you and we’ll speak to you again at a later time.<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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<em>(We had dozens more questions about Pepper Ball, but we simply needed to end the session there because we were exhausted. Next, we will get onto what happened with the Nazi satellite disaster).</em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-46774220996252293492010-05-25T18:53:00.000-05:002010-06-19T19:06:38.690-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 14Question: Dr. 58, before we get started with some other information, can you tell us when your next Pepper Ball match will be played?<br />
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ANSWER: WE MEET THE SCORPION FORCE ON THE FESTIVAL OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">KEEVE</span>.<br />
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Question: Ah ha. They sound tough. Do they have an excellent <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trac</span> Man, capable of enduring incredible pain?<br />
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ANSWER: WE PLAN TO TEST HIM WELL.<br />
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Question: What is this Festival of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Keeve</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: A GATHERING OF THE PUBLIC BATHS, THE SHARING OF FOOD, MODULATIONS OF STARLIGHT INFUSIONS, AND <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FIREPHANES</span>.<br />
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Question: (Exerting enormous self control to forgo asking about what the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">firephanes</span> are, and possibly get carried down another rabbit hole). Ah, more starlight cultural stuff. This starlight thing and celestial water really informs almost every aspect of your life and culture, does it not?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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(Note: I will release more on all this starlight stuff later. We conducted a couple of sessions to get to the bottom of this. These were lengthy and sometimes convoluted, and I’m not sure how to best present the original transcript because they are so long and often tedious -- although I know some will want to see them).<br />
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However, in short:<br />
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In Dr. 58’s America, a complex system of social meaning has developed around the infusion and mixture of starlight with human consciousness, which is somehow optically captured in diamond or crystal or glass objects, which people culturally and spiritually attach themselves to, and give personal and social meaning to.<br />
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Most people wear a starlight “jewel” at the base of their throats which resonates their “affiliation” with particular kinds of starlight.<br />
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There are 6 bands of starlight spectrum, and these are additionally refined by 6 different magnitudes of star -- but there are also “special quality” celestial lights, such as those derived from specific star clusters, as with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Quetzal</span> Cluster already mentioned.<br />
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I’m pretty sure the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Quetzal</span> Cluster is that which we call the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Pleiades</span>, based on our discussion. Some infuse “celestial water” not with starlight, per <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">se</span>, but that from Messier objects, such as the Andromeda nebula, or the Orion nebula, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ect</span>. <br />
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So, people who are “projecting” or “displaying” the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Quetzal</span> Cluster light, for example, are making a kind of public statement about who they are and what they are about, and every quality of color and magnitude of starlight has instant, deep and nuanced meaning to everyone.<br />
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The throat jewel of Dr. 58’s world reminds me a lot of the “Bindi” which are worn on the forehead by Hindi people of India, who also attach a specific array of meaning to these kind of adornments -- although the comparison is far from perfect.<br />
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While the Indian <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Bindi</span> are religious in nature, the Dr. 58 starlight infusions are part hard science, part philosophy, part social engineering, part religious -- it’s actually difficult for me to understand this rather complex psycho-social phenomenon in Dr.58’s world. <br />
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Also, unlike the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Bindi</span>, starlight infused objects are used to adorn households and “inform” public places of art and various modes of worship.<br />
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Still, it’s tempting to think that there is a alternate universe cultural connection or influence of the Hindu “Bindi” practice with Dr. 58’s America -- since this entire nutty world seems to be a crazy blending of all kinds of things we have here -- but mixed up together in a totally different way over there.<br />
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It’s pretty mind-numbingly complex … and so back to raw session material).<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, what chance do you think the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> of Ker have of defeating the Scorpion Force? Can you give me odds?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.<br />
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Question: Well, would you say you are evenly matched with the Scorpion Force, or are they a much more powerful team than your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span>, or what is the case?<br />
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ANSWER: THE SCORPION FORCE PLAY WELL. THEIR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN IS STOUT, BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE HIM SUBMIT.<br />
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Question: So you would say you are evenly matched, that either side could win this Pepper Ball game? <br />
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ANSWER: YES, POSSIBLY.<br />
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(Note: The reason I was pursuing this line of questioning is that my friend Les, who observed the Pepper Ball session, suggested we should start wagering on Pepper Ball if we could. I agreed.<br />
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I decided to place my bet on the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> and Les will agree to place his wager on whoever the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> play next. When I learned of their next opponent, the Scorpion Force, I informed Les and he agreed will bet on the Scorpions, especially after I told him that Dr. 8 suggested even odds. I originally wanted to place a wager of 10 C-Chits, but Les is not, well, attuned to manufacturing C-Chits nor sees the practicality, so we decided on something much more earthy. If the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> win, Les has agreed to change the oil in my car. If the Scorpion Force win, I must help Les clean his garage.)<br />
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Question: Dr. 58, I urge you and the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Waspmen</span> to play well on the Festival of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Keeve</span>. I have made a certain wager on the match and I depend on your victory.<br />
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ANSWER: DO YOU ATTEMPT TO MEDDLE WITH A HEX?<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Nooooo</span>!!!!!! Quite the opposite! I urge you onto victory so I don’t have to perform a task of labor for a friend!! For the millionth time, I do not have the power of Hex! Do you understand?<br />
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ANSWER WHAT ABOUT PLAN 9?<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gahhh</span>!!!! How do you know about Plan 9!!??<br />
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ANSWER: OTHERS HAVE INFORMED ME OF YOUR POWER TO IMPOSE PLAN 9.<br />
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Question: Are you speaking of the being who we have come to call the Man Thing Entity?<br />
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ANSWER: IT WAS A BEING OF THE KINGDOM. IT SAID YOU RECOMMEND THAT I VISIT MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: The entity is a liar!!!!!!!! It suggested that I encourage you to visit Minnesota. I said that I would not do so, nor would I interfere with your plans in any way. I don’t trust the Man Thing Entity. I threatened him with Plan 9 to get rid of him. Are you planning to travel to Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: I WOULD NOT SAY YES OR NO.<br />
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Question: Fine! Plan 9 is nothing for you to worry about, I assure you of that. Do you believe me?<br />
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ANSWER: I RESERVE JUDGMENT.<br />
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(Note: Obviously this was a sticky situation. I did not want to tell Dr. 58 that Plan 9 was just a bunch of nonsense I had concocted it to blow off the Man Thing Entity. For all I knew, the Man Thing Entity is always listening in on all of our conversations. If it found out I was bluffing about Plan 9, well … that would be annoying to say the least).<br />
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Question: I assure you that you have nothing to worry about in regards to Plan 9, nor any hexes, and at any rate, I can assure you with 100 percent honesty that Plan 9 is not a method of hex, but something of a quite different nature. So, anyway, Dr. 58, when is the Festival of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Keeve</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: ON THE NEXT MOON <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRIUM</span>.<br />
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Question: What is that?<br />
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ANSWER: THE THREE DAYS OF THE MOON -- GIBBOUS-FULL-GIBBOUS.<br />
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Question: Ah, so the day before the full moon, the day of the full moon, and the day after the full moon?<br />
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ANSWER: YES<br />
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Question: And how many days it that from now?<br />
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ANSWER: IN 9 DAYS.<br />
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Question: Great! Well, train well for your upcoming Pepper Ball match against the Scorpion Force, and I wish you a great victory! As I said, I am betting on you. Will many people be observing the match?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: One last thing, I understand that you communicated with a certain <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> of the Staff Guild. Did he consult with you on the construction of your own personal staff?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: What are your thoughts on this?<br />
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ANSWER: I SEE BENEFIT IN THE IDEA.<br />
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Question: Did <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> recommend you coat your staff in blood?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And will you comply?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, I THINK SO.<br />
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Question: What wood did <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gefraim</span> recommend for your staff?<br />
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ANSWER: OAK.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. He said I should use willow. Anyway, we must sign off for now, Dr. 58. We are tired. Once again, good luck against the Scorpion Force!<br />
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ANSWER: OUR <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TRAC</span> MAN SANDS HIS SKIN DAILY. WE WILL PERFORM WELL.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-22612582427354443152010-05-20T19:01:00.000-05:002010-06-19T19:02:00.070-05:00Dr. 58 - Session 15<em>(And so, the Ouija sessions continue.....here we finally get back to what happened in the case of the Nazi satellite disasters ... some may want to review where this previous information left off ....)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, what was the Nazi strategy to secure Krupp Island and contain whatever menace that resulted from the attempt to remote view Minnesota from space?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZIS WAITED AND OBSERVED KRUPP. NO COMMUNICATION CAME. ALL WERE PRESUMED DEAD OR ABOMINATED. BUT THEN THE STARS WERE ASSAULTED.<br />
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Question: What do you mean by that?<br />
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ANSWER: NAZI SATELLITES EXPLODED IN SPACE CREATING A CIRCLE OF SPACE DEBRIS WHICH DEFILED THE STARLIGHT -- A BLOW TO AMERICAN SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: Wow. So while the Nazi’s were contemplating what to do with Krupp, a bunch of their satellites started blowing up in space? Yikes! Somebody -- or something -- in Minnesota must have been supremely pissed off that the Nazi’s tried to snoop on them from space!! Um, well, could this destruction in space be seen from the earth?<br />
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ANSWER: IN THE NIGHT SKY, THERE WAS A SPECTRAL BAND OF DIRTY LIGHT LITTERED WITH FALSE STARS.<br />
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Question: So this ring of space debris, it must have been rather massive if it appeared as a ghostly cloud. I assume when you say this was littered with false stars, these were chunks of exploded satellite refuse or space hardware debris?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. <br />
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Question: How wide was this band, would you say? How many degrees of width?<br />
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ANSWER: THE WIDTH OF A HAND EXTENDED AT ARM’S LENGTH TO THE SKY.<br />
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Question: That would be about 5 or 6 degrees. (Note: I did not have to pause the session to look this up, in case anyone is wondering. I did my graduate work in space studies, and have done a lot of writing work for an aerospace firm).<br />
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To continue the question: I wonder what the would have made a cloud out there is space? It might have been tiny particles of satellite dust, but I doubt it. Perhaps the fuel source of the satellites contributed? Do you know?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Do you know anything about what powered the Nazi satellites? Do you have nuclear power in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW NUCLEAR. I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT POWERS NAZI SATELLITES. THEY USE TECHNOLOGY, UNLIKE THE MAYANS.<br />
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Question: What do you mean? Do the Mayans also have satellites or other forms of space travel?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THEY ONCE DID.<br />
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Question: If they don’t use technology to build and put satellites in space, what do they use?<br />
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ANSWER: MAGIC, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Well of course! What else? What were we thinking! But, anyway, why did the Mayans cut back on their space exploration efforts, if that’s what you’re saying?<br />
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ANSWER: THEIR MAGIC WENT FROM STRONG TO WEAK.<br />
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(Note: There he goes again with the Mayan strong and weak magic issue. We simply have to put off learning about this obviously complex issue later, so we steered back to the issue at hand, the Nazi satellite disaster). <br />
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Question: Dr. 58, let’s get back to the Nazis. So they have Krupp Island surrounded and quarantined. They are deciding their next move. In the meantime, an array of satellites explode in space, staining the night sky with an ugly unnatural light as seen from earth. I bet I can guess why this was a blow to American society -- it must have really interfered with the all-important art of gathering light for your celestial <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">aquifying</span> efforts, am I right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY. THE SPECTRAL SWATH IN THE NIGHT SKY WAS MIRRORED AS A BAND OF DISTRESS ACROSS AMERICAN SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: I can see what you mean there. There must have been a number of stars and other astronomical objects interfered with by the space junk -- and those in your culture who are attuned to the stars afflicted by they distortion in light must have been greatly effected, yes?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. <br />
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Question: Still, even with a distortion band of about 5 degrees, the other 95% of American society must have been unaffected, correct?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL FELT THE DISTRESS OF THE OTHERS. EVEN A NARROW BAND OF DISRUPTION WORKED AS A WAVE THAT WAS FELT THROUGHOUT THE SPECTRUM OF SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: Yes, thank you, Dr. 58, that is a very lucid way of describing this situation. I can see what you mean. A wave of disruption within society would probably ripple out to the rest of society, even if individual star-power, or whatever, was not directly impinged upon. But, in practical terms, what did this mean for people? How did it directly affect American society?<br />
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ANSWER: IT DISRUPTED SOCIETY, OF COURSE. THE INABILITY TO PROJECT ONE’S <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">MANH</span> MAKES NORMAL LIFE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR MOST.<br />
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Question: What is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Manh</span>?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE HOW TO DESCRIBE SOMETHING SO FUNDAMENTAL.<br />
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Question: Well, let’s not worry too much about it. I think I might know what you’re talking about there -- perhaps a person’s <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Manh</span> is his integral central soul identity, or something like that, as they project it to the rest of society. Do you think I am describing this accurately?<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS.<br />
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Question: Well, were there riots, or deaths, of fights, or some kind of violent social disruptions?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT WOULD NOT BE AMERICAN. IT WAS WORSE THAN THAT… SUBTLE … (A PAUSE) … THERE WAS SOCIETAL FEAR AND MALAISE. A DEEP SUFFERING OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">MANH</span>. AMERICAN OUTRAGE WAS DIRECTED AT THE NAZI REGIME.<br />
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Question: By the way, who is the Nazi leader?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI RULERS ARE A TECHNOCRATIC OLIGARCHY. THOSE WHO HOLD POWER GUARD THEIR IDENTITY.<br />
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Question: Okay, well how was this American outrage manifested ? Did people at least demonstrate in the streets, and start beating the drums of war, if you know what I mean?<br />
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ANSWER: AMERICA COULD NOT WAGE A WAR UPON THE NAZIS. HOWEVER, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">RIGGOLD</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">BANNON</span> APPEALED TO THE WORLD OF NATIONS TO SANCTION THE NAZIS.<br />
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Question: Yes, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Riggold</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Bannon</span>, your <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Imperator</span>! What did he do, convene a council of world leaders so that everyone could get together to find some way to punish or sanction or curb the Nazi meddling in space and with Minnesota.<br />
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ANSWER: AN APPEAL WAS MADE TO THE MAYANS TO DIRECT THEIR SUN BEAM AT THE NAZI SPACE COLONY.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Yowzz</span>!!! The Nazi’s even had a colony in space!! Do you mean an orbiting space colony, or a colony on the moon, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: AN ORBITING COLONY.<br />
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Question: Boy, they seem to have come a long way in just a few years! I mean, you are in 1951 and you said the Nazis started launching satellites in the 1930s -- and since then they have even developed a space colony?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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(Note: Once again, we put this a thorny issue aside, simply to move along and not get bogged down. However, as I have said earlier, they have three different calendar systems in Dr. 58’s world, and they are certainly dealing with time differently than we are, so, that’s possibly an explanation … I’ll leave it at that for now … I‘ll try getting to the bottom of it later).<br />
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Question: What is the Mayan Sun Beam?<br />
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ANSWER: AN ENERGY BEAM OF SUNLIGHT. MUCH OF MAYAN MAGIC COMES FROM THE SUN.<br />
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Question: So they have some kind of powerful laser beam?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW LASER.<br />
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Question: Don’t worry about it. Did the Mayans comply? Did they direct their sun energy beam at the Nazi space station?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, THEY REFUSED.<br />
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Question: Why not? Are they allied with the Nazis? Are they friendly with the Nazis?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. MAYAN’S MOTIVATIONS ARE THEIR OWN.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmm</span>. Are the Mayans friendly with America?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT IS DIFFICULT TO KNOW.<br />
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Question: Why? There must be some relations between your countries. After all, you are neighbors, right?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS A SAYING: THE MAYANS REVEAL MUCH BUT HIDE EVERYTHING.<br />
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Question: Cool, that is so cool, I like that. But, anyway … wait a minute. Something doesn’t make sense here. I can understand the Americans wanting to get revenge on the Nazi’s for meddling in Minnesota from space, but would not blowing up a Nazi space colony create even more space debris to pollute the night sky?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI SPACE COLONY IS CLOSER TO THE MOON. <br />
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Question: Yes, that makes perfect sense! There is a point, I think it’s called the L-Point where the earth and moon’s gravity sort of cancel each other out, making it a perfect place to park a space colony where is can get a gravity free ride, so to speak. Wow. Do you know how many people inhabited the space colony?<br />
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ANSWER: ONLY THE NAZIS KNEW. BUT THERE WERE HUNDREDS OR MORE.<br />
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Question: How would you know even that?<br />
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ANSWER: WHEN THE SPACE COLONY WAS DESTROYED AMERICAN OPTICS IDENTIFIED MANY CORPSES IN SPACE.<br />
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Question: Whoa! Wait a minute! So the Mayans refused to take out the space colony, so who did?<br />
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ANSWER: THE THRALLDOM.<br />
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Question: (Holds head and groans. Then holds head and groans again. Takes a deep sigh). Okay, okay, what is the Thralldom?<br />
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ANSWER: YOUR IGNORANCE IS SPECTACULAR. THE THOR THRALLDOM, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Uhhhhhhhh</span> … This must be some Scandinavian nation then? Do you know the nations Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland … Any of those ring a bell?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS A REGION, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SWEDIA</span>.<br />
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Question: And is this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Swedia</span> region a part of the Thor Thralldom?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Well, off the coast of New York -- is that the Atlantic ocean?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And the continent that across the Atlantic, say the northern part of the Atlantic, what is that?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST MEAN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OLGIAE</span>.<br />
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(Note: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Olgiae</span> --- Old <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Gaia</span>?????).<br />
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Question: And is there an island nation above the western part of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Olgiae</span> separated by a narrow channel of water?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MUST MEAN ENGLAND.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Whoooo</span>-<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">hoooooo</span>! Yes! So you have and England in your world! Do you have an Ireland?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT AN EXPERT ON ALL NATIONS, BUT I DON’T THINK I KNOW IRELAND.<br />
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Question: Didn’t you study geography in school?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU.<br />
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Question: School! Do you know what a school is? Where do you go to learn about everything, you know, how to read and write, and that kind of thing?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, I AM SCHOOLED.<br />
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Question: And the location where this schooling takes place. What do you call that?<br />
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ANSWER: I CAN’T UNDERSTAND YOU. I AM SCHOOLED … ANYWHERE…I AM SCHOOLED BY SOCIETY.<br />
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(Note: Sigh. Don’t want to go there right now).<br />
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Question: Forget about the school thing. In our world the land we have a nation called the United Kingdom. It actually consists of four nations, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. What do you say?<br />
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ANSWER: I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAND OF ENGLAND.<br />
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Question: What can you tell us about England?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. ENGLAND IS UNDER THE THRALLDOM.<br />
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Question: Now this Thralldom -- the Thor Thralldom -- where is this land?<br />
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ANSWER: THE REGION OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OLGIAE</span> EAST OF THE NAZI REICH. A VAST NORTHERN REGION.<br />
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Question: What is the land south of England across the narrow channel of water?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT IS THE REICH.<br />
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(<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhhh</span>!!! I wonder if this means ‘See ya later France‘!!!! For now, I am going to assume that the Thor Thralldom is that which we call the Scandinavian regions in our world.)<br />
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Question: Let’s forget about our geography lesson for now. How did the Thralldom destroy the Nazi space colony?<br />
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ANSWER; IN THE WAY OF THE THRALLDOM. WITH BRUTE STRENGTH. THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">RAGNAROKR</span> HAMMER.<br />
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Question: But with what? Did they send a missile into space, you know, some kind of rocket or missile? Do you know what we mean?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. THE THRALLDOM HAS MANY IMPLEMENTS. I’M NOT AN EXPERT. THEY COMMAND SOMETHING CALLED SINGLE STONE.<br />
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Question: Maybe a solid fuel rocket. A single-stage-to-orbit solid fuel rocket? Certainly this is what you must be talking about? Do you know what a rocket is?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT I DON’T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND ME. THE THRALLDOM IS CRUDE IN POWER. THEY ARE NOT SUBTLE LIKE THE MAYANS OR TECHNOLOGICAL LIKE THE NAZIS. THEY FAVOR BRUTE FORCE. THEY COUNTER GRAVITY WITH FORCE. THEY EXPLODE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">RAGNAROKR</span> HAMMER -- THEY FLING IT FROM THE EARTH.<br />
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Question: Well, what does this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ragnarokr</span> Hammer look like? What is it? Is it a rocket?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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(<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhhhh</span>!!!!!!!!!! <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhhhhhh</span>!!!!! So damned frustrating!!!!!!!!!)<br />
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Question: So England is under the Thralldom, you say? As its name would suggest, the Thor Thralldom is an oppressive power, I mean, oppressive of people?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THE THRALLDOM IS NOT OPPRESSIVE. THEY MASTER SOCIETAL ASSIMILATION. BUT THEY HAVE POWER. THEY BALANCE THE REICH.<br />
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Question: Is the power of the Thralldom more technological, like the Nazis, or magical like the Mayans?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU MAKE ME LOOK AT THINGS IN A NEW WAY. I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.<br />
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Question: Forget that for now. Maybe we should get back to Krupp. So Krupp is surrounded, the Nazis are suffering major blows to their space-based infrastructure, and probably dealing with widespread geopolitical condemnation. What happens next on Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: SOMETHING VERY HORRIBLE. BUT THE NAZIS ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH THE PREGNANT DEMON MOON.<br />
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Question: Oh no. (Super heavy sigh). Okay, okay, what is the Pregnant Demon Moon? <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>, it sound like something terrible.<br />
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ANSWER: THE ORIGINAL SATELLITE THAT PEERED DOWN ON MINNESOTA WAS TRANSFORMED BY SOME VERY GREAT MINNESOTA MAGIC. IT BECAME THE PREGNANT DEMON MOON. IT TERRORIZED THE REICH AND THE WORLD.<br />
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<em>(This is getting long for a single post, so I'll end it there for now).</em>IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-41919577811792683492010-05-10T19:11:00.000-05:002010-06-19T19:13:16.056-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 16Opening statement: Mommy, are you in the Nothing chamber? Mommy? Will you come forth?<br />
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ANSWER: MOMMY IS HERE FOR YOU, DARLING.<br />
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Question: Hi Mommy! Are you well?<br />
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ANSWER: MOMMY IS IN THE NOTHING CHAMBER.<br />
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Question: Certainly you are! Mommy, I have a question for you. This morning, before I awoke from sleep, I remained for a period in body-asleep, mind-awake state. Are you with me, Mommy?<br />
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(Note: Most of you will recognize this as the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">hypnagogic</span> state, that period during which sleep paralysis occurs. It’s basically a state between sleep and wakefulness. I have come to call it the mind-awake, body-asleep state, using the terminology of the Monroe Institute.)<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY. <br />
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Question: Mommy, as I rested in bed, I noticed a presence in the room -- it was a young man, perhaps a teenager, with reddish <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">blonde</span> hair. I was unable to move, but he approached me. He showed me an arrow with what looked like a copper arrowhead tip. He held the arrow up, and smiled, and started laughing. He said: “I’m going to use this! I am! I’m going to use it! I’m going to use it!” Then he disappeared. Mommy, do you attend my experience?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Mommy, do you know who this young man was?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HON, THIS WAS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SRENS</span>.<br />
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Question: Who is <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span>, and does he have anything to do with the Dr. 58 sessions?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SRENS</span> IS THE SON OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHADIDA</span>.<br />
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Question: Whoa!!! So Chadida’s son survived!! And he must have somehow been able to learn the knowledge I tried to supply Chadida’s enemies!! Bow and arrow technology!<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: How did he manage to escape from that terrible situation, from the people who captured <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chadida</span>, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span> and his family?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SRENS</span> IS EXTREMELY CRAFTY. WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A GENIUS.<br />
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Question: Wow. Mommy, since it is I who gave <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chadida</span> and <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span> the idea for bow and arrow technology, does that mean that I am responsible for the introduction of this technology into human history?<br />
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ANSWER: IN NO WAY HONEY. DID YOU INVENT THE IDEA-FORM OF BOW AND ARROW?<br />
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Question: No. But they did not know about it in Chadida’s ancient times, so didn’t the idea-form of bow and arrow enter that time period through my interference?<br />
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ANSWER: NO SWEETHEART, IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT.<br />
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Question: Why did <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span> visit me?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SRENS</span> IS A POWERFUL SHAMAN. HE PERCEIVED YOUR ROLE IN THE EVENTS. HE WANTED TO SEE YOU.<br />
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Question: And is he now satisfied?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Okay, well, perhaps this is all a discussion for another time. Could you help me learn more about <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span> -- and I assume he would be my great-great-grandfather to the Nth degree, am I right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, DEAR, IN BIOLOGICAL TERMS.<br />
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(Note: For those of you who do not know this is about, see this Ouija transcript here:<br />
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http://www.<span class="goog-spellcheck-word" style="background: yellow;">unexplain</span>...<span class="goog-spellcheck-word" style="background: yellow;">hl</span>=<span class="goog-spellcheck-word" style="background: yellow;">chadida</span>&st=0<br />
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Question: Mommy, prior to my partial awakening and the visitation of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Srens</span>, I had a peculiar dream. I was walking in a long stone chamber. My cat, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trantor</span>, was in my dream with me. Along the walls were exotic hieroglyphics of a type I did not recognize, although some of them could appear to move and convey meanings into my mind. <br />
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Ahead in the long stone chamber a group of tall people with unnervingly large but beautiful brown eyes. They stood in a V-formation. Their skin was golden brown. I walked closer to them and formed a circle around me. We looked at each other for a awhile, and then I was gone. Where were <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Trantor</span> and I, and who were these people, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: THOSE WERE THE MAYANS, HONEY.<br />
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Question: I suspect the Mayans of Dr. 58’s world?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: How is that I and my cat were there, Mommy, and why?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAYANS TAKE NOTICE OF YOU. THEY ARE CURIOUS.<br />
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Question: Can they summon me to their chamber or temple whenever they want to?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY, YOU MUST HAVE MUTUAL AFFINITY OF PURPOSE.<br />
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Question: What do you mean?<br />
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ANSWER: THEIR CURIOSITY IS INTENSE, AS IS YOURS. IN THAT AFFINITY YOU FIND PLACE TO MEET.<br />
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Question: Yes, I can see that. Do they consider me a trouble maker, someone who is meddling or interfering?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Where was this temple located, where I met the Mayans?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAYANS CALL IT THE SEA OF MIND, ON MARS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Eeeooww</span>! The Mayans have temples on Mars!!??<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Does Dr. 58 know about this?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Mommy, do you know what Dr. 58’s real name is?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Will you tell us?<br />
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ANSWER: DR. 58 HAS ENACTED CODICIL 13 OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES. IT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM LEARNING.<br />
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Question: Oh brother, so this Codicil 13 thing is not just some crock he cooked up to brush me off?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY. AS I TOLD YOU, THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">VERDANTIC</span> MYSTERIES HAVE REALITY IN HIS WORLD.<br />
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Question: Well, what do you mean that the Codicil would prevent me from learning Dr. 58’s name? Why don’t you just tell me his name right now, since you know it, and the hell with Codicil 13? We’re friends, Mommy, so how about you do me a solid?<br />
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ANSWER: I JUST TOLD YOU DR. 58’S NAME. DID YOU READ IT?<br />
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Question: No! You did not tell me his name!<br />
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ANSWER: I DID TELL YOU. YOU CANNOT PERCEIVE IT.<br />
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Question: How does that work, Mommy! It’s as if you never told us anything, but you say you did?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME THINGS ARE NOT FOR YOU, HONEY. CODICIL 13 PREVENTS YOU FROM KNOWING DR. 58’S NAME. <br />
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Question: But you know it. Does not Codicil 13 apply to you?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE IS NO CODICIL 13 IN THE NOTHING CHAMBER.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhhhhh</span>!!!!!!! We love you, Mommy, but you drive us crazy!!<br />
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ANSWER: I KNOW, HONEY.<br />
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Question: What kind of technology or magic do the Mayans have that enables them to inhabit temples on Mars where conditions are so hostile to human life?<br />
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ANSWER: ASK DR. 58.<br />
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Question: Why don’t you tell us? Getting information from Dr. 58 is a painfully slow process,.<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DON’T WANT ME TO INTERFERE.<br />
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Question: (Heavy sigh.) Yes, yes, you’re right, Mommy, not that we don’t appreciate you. Okay?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, SWEETHEART.<br />
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Question: Thank you, Mommy. Good-bye.<br />
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GOOD-BYE.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-16793620177727253822010-05-08T19:29:00.001-05:002010-06-19T19:33:51.954-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 17More session transcript -- I think first paragraph is last of previous entry concerning the sat. disaster material ....)<br />
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ANSWER: THE ORIGINAL SATELLITE THAT PEERED DOWN ON MINNESOTA WAS TRANSFORMED BY SOME VERY GREAT MINNESOTA MAGIC. IT BECAME THE PREGNANT DEMON MOON. IT TERRORIZED THE REICH AND THE WORLD.<br />
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Question: What was this object?<br />
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ANSWER: AMERICAN OPTICS OBSERVED THE NAZI SATELLITE FROM THE BEGINNING. WHEN THE NAZI’S BEGAN OBSERVING MINNESOTA FROM SPACE, THE SATELLITE BEGAN TO TRANSFORM. IT GREW FRIGHTENINGLY LARGE.<br />
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Question: How large. As big as a natural moon?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY. THE DEMON MOON WAS PECULIAR. ONE COULD NOT LOOK AT IT DIRECTLY, OR MEASURE IT.<br />
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Question: What would happen when one looked at it directly? Did it cause harm to observers to look at it?<br />
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ANSWER: IF ONE TRIED TO OBSERVE IT, IT SHIFTED AND LOST FORM. IF ONE LOOKED AT IT INDIRECTLY, IT APPEARED STABLE, SUCH AS IT WAS.<br />
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Question: So, if you sort of looked at it at with the sides of your eye, say to use averted vision, one could better see the object for what it was?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY. ALSO, IT COULD BE LOOKED AT WITH A MIRROR WHICH WOULD PREVENT IT FROM PLAYING TRICKS ON THE EYES.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Hmmmm</span>. Well, what was it like? A large globe? Did it look like a natural rocky, cratered moon, for example?<br />
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QUESTION: AT FIRST IT WAS A LARGE ORANGE GLOBE WITHOUT SURFACE FEATURE. ITS OUTER SURFACE APPEARED AS A MEMBRANE. IT GLOWED FROM WITHIN.<br />
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Question: A membrane? So I get the impression that this demon moon had a rather biological look, perhaps like a soft egg -- more like a fish egg, perhaps, with a soft shell rather than the hard shell of a bird?<br />
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ANSWER: LIKE THAT. <br />
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Question: I’m almost afraid to ask now -- but you call it the “pregnant” demon moon. Why call it this?<br />
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ANSWER: AFTER SOME TIME IT WAS APPARENT THAT SOMETHING WAS INSIDE THE DEMON MOON. SHADOWS. SOME HORROR WAS GESTATING.<br />
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Question: Good lord! But wait a minute, all this was observed from the earth-based optical devices while the satellite was in space?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. SHORTLY AFTER THE EVENTS ON KRUPP, THE DEMON MOON DESCENDED TO EARTH. <br />
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Question: How close to the earth’s surface?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DEMON MOON DESCENDED BELOW THE LOWEST CLOUDS. AT TIMES, IT CAME AS CLOSE AS TREE TOPS.<br />
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Question: It certainly must have defied a lot of natural laws. For example, for any space-based object to return from space through the earth’s atmosphere, it would have required a heat shield of some kind to prevent it from burning up in the atmosphere. What was the thinking among your experts?<br />
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ANSWER: SOMETIMES YOU SPEAK LIKE A NAZI. I ONLY KNOW THE MOON CAME DOWN FROM SPACE CLOSE TO EARTH.<br />
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Question: Where did it come down?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DEMON MOON ROAMED THE PLANET. IT FIRST DESCENDED TO THE AMERICAS. IT WAS BELIEVED IT WOULD LAND IN MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: But it didn’t?<br />
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ANSWER: IT ENTERED THE UNITED STATES OVER THE DELTA OF DREAD AND APPEARED TO FOLLOW THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span> NORTH. IT VEERED WEST OVER IOWA AND PASSED INTO DAKOTA.<br />
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Question: I imagine it struck terror among the people out there on the plains. What was the case?<br />
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ANSWER: THE AREA OF WEST AMERICA CONTAINS LITTLE POPULATION, BUT THOSE WERE TERRORIZED. PEOPLE COWERED AND HID ON SIGHT OF THE DEMON MOON.<br />
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Question: Pretty unfair that this thing would haunt the sky of the American middle west when this was a Nazi boondoggle from the beginning! I thought you said it terrorized the Reich?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MOON PASSED WITHOUT INCIDENT ACROSS WEST AMERICA AND MOVED OFF OVER THE BLUE EXPANSE, THEN CROSSED THE VAST FORLORN, THE THRALLDOM AND ENTERED THE REICH.<br />
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Question: I assume what you call the Blue Expanse we call the Pacific Ocean, but let’s not get bogged down there right now. But I have to ask, what is this “Vast Forlorn”?<br />
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ANSWER: THE VAST REGIONS OF THE EAST.<br />
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Question: Do you have a China or a Russia or Siberia? Do these names mean anything to you, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: In our world, there is a gigantic country which stretches east of what you would call the Thor Thralldom which is called Russia. It was once called the Soviet Union. Do you know this?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Is this the region you call the Vast Forlorn, and why is it called that?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL THIS LAND WAS DEVASTATED BY EVENTS LOST TO HISTORY, CENTURIES AGO.<br />
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Question: Well, is the region populated at all? This is a gigantic amount of real estate!<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW REAL ESTATE. SOME HUMANS DWELL IN THE VAST FORLORN, BUT THEY ARE OF AN UNKNOWN ILK.<br />
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Question: I’m not sure I understand what you mean. You say they are humans, yet of an unknown nature or ilk? Can you explain?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS. THE VAST FORLORN IS NOT LIKE MINNESOTA. BUT IT IS NOT CIVILIZED.<br />
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Question: Well, is anything known about the events that devastated the Vast Forlorn?<br />
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ANSWER: THE VAST FORLORN IS POISONED. THERE ARE SEAS OF LIQUID METAL. LITTLE OF THE LAND CAN BEAR FRUIT. THERE ARE DEAD CITIES, HAUNTED CITIES. ISOLATED PRIMITIVE TRIBES.<br />
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Question: Wow. (Must not get bogged down here now!!!). Okay, let’s get back to the demon moon. It’s now in the Reich. What’s it doing there?<br />
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ANSWER: IT HAUNTED THE REICH. BY DAY IT RECEDED TO THE CLOUDS. BY NIGHT, IT ROAMED LOW ABOVE NAZI <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">OLGIAE</span>, AND GREW PREGNANT WITH FORM.<br />
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Question: What do you mean, pregnant with form?<br />
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ANSWER: IT GAINED A VENOUS EXTERIOR. THE SURFACE THROBBED. SHADOWS ROILED WITHIN. IT WAS FEARED PREGNANT WITH ABOMINATIONS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>, I can imagine what a frightening spectacle this must have presented. So this thing was floating low over the Reich countryside, seeming to threaten to burst open like some giant spider’s egg and unleash untold numbers of horrors upon the land. And it gave off an eerie orange glow?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE RED EYE OPENED ON ITS SURFACE AND WEPT BLOOD. WHEN THE EYE BLINKED, IT ALTERED REALITY.<br />
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Question What on earth do you mean by that, by altered reality?<br />
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ANSWER: WHEN THEY EYE BLINKED, THE MOON SHRUNK TO A SINGULARITY, AIR AND LIGHT, THE VERY FABRIC OF SPACE COLLAPSED AROUND IT, AND BOUNCED BACK WHEN IT OPENED.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Jeepers</span>, what else? So not only does this thing look like a giant throbbing egg with veins pulsating on its surface and dark forms moving within, it also had a giant eye! Come on, Dr. 58, are you reading too many cheap horror novels?<br />
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ANSWER; I DON’T KNOW NOVELS.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ahhh</span>! Don’t you have books in your world? You know, stuff to read?<br />
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ANSWER: WE HAVE ITEMS OF READING. THE BIRCHES. THE TABS. THE SCROLLS. THE ANCIENT ROLL-UPS.<br />
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Question: Let’s just drop that. What did the population of the Reich do? Was their widespread panic, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: NAZI SOCIETY GREW CHAOTIC. NAZI SOCIETY WAS GRIPPED BY FEAR. THERE WERE MANY FOOLISH ACTS.<br />
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Question: Like what, for example?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME MADE UNSANCTIONED ATTACKS UPON THE DEMON MOON WITH HAND WEAPONS. FOOLISH.<br />
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Question: So, like, some ordinary citizen of the Reich took it upon himself to get out his shotgun and take a shot at the demon moon?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW SHOTGUN, BUT NAZI’S HAVE MANY PROJECTILE WEAPONS. DIRECTING THEM UPON THE DEMON MOON RESULTED IN HORROR.<br />
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Question: Like what?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME WHO ATTACKED THE DEMON MOON WERE DRAWN INTO THE MOON WHERE THEY JOINED THE ABOMINATIONS INSIDE.<br />
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Question: How exactly did this happen? How were the Nazi’s drawn into the moon?<br />
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ANSWER: A REPTILE TONGUE OF LIGHTENING SPEED, PLUCKED THEM FROM THE EARTH AND DREW THEM WITHIN. THEREAFTER, THEIR FACES COULD BE SEEN PRESSED AGAINST THE MEMBRANE, CRYING FOR SALVATION.<br />
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Question: Well, I take it that people learned their lesson pretty quickly to leave the damned thing alone, right?<br />
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ANSWER: MOST PEOPLE TOOK SHELTER UNDERGROUND IN NAZI SINGLE STONE SHELTERS.<br />
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Question: Single stone shelters? The single stone weaponry of the Thralldom? The Nazi’s fear this weapon?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Had the Thralldom ever attacked the Reich with single stone, or the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ragnarokr</span> Hammer?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. BUT THE NAZI’S PREPARE.<br />
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Question: It sounds like the Reich and the Thor Thralldom are balanced in a kind of Cold War. Do you know what I mean? They are not at war, but the threat of war exists and there is tension between the two nations?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Well, didn’t the mighty Nazi military take action against the demon moon? Why didn’t they blast it out of the sky?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE, THE UNKNOWN CONSEQUENCES. AN EQUAL OPPOSITE REACTION OF HORROR WAS FEARED FOR ANY ATTEMPTS TO ATTACK THE MOON.<br />
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Question: I almost don’t know what to ask next. Did the demon moon ever hatch out its inner abominations upon the Reich?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DEMON MOON TRAVELED TO THE NAZI CAPITAL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">MEUCHEN</span> AND LOWERED TO THE CITY <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">AGORA</span>. AN OPEN SORE FORMED ON THE SURFACE OF THE MOON, WHERE FROM THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHERFOOT</span> ABOMINATION CAME FORTH TO MOCK AND DERIDE NAZI SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: The <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Featherfoot</span> Abomination? What was this?<br />
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ANSWER: A GIANT CREATURE WITH LONG BIRDLIKE LEGS, AND <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">TALONED</span> FEET. IT’S LEGS WERE COVERED WITH FEATHERS. THE TALONS OF THE FEET WERE FEATHERED AS WELL.<br />
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Question: What did the rest of it look like?<br />
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ANSWER: A BLUNT TORSO OF REPTILIAN QUALITY. THE ABOMINATION HAD NO ARMS OR HANDS. OUT OF THE TOP TWO LONG, ROPE-LIKE NECK STALKS SUPPORTED BIRD HEADS THAT APPEARED BLACKENED AND BURNED.<br />
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Question: Again, we are at a loss for words. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ummmm</span>, so, I mean, this thing gave some kind of mocking sarcastic public lecture deriding the Nazis. Who was there to listen? Wasn’t everyone cowering in their basements?<br />
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ANSWER: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHERFOOT</span> CALLED FORTH UPON THE POPULATION. IT THREATENED DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE REALM IF PEOPLE DID NOT GATHER TO LISTEN.<br />
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Question: And did people come?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THOUSANDS GATHERED AND COWERED BEFORE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHERFOOT</span>. MANY VOMITED OVER THE STENCH. MANY COMMITTED SUICIDE. MANY WERE SEX CHANGED.<br />
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Question: What? Sex changed?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHERFOOT</span> CALLED FORTH INDIVIDUALS NAZIS AND CHANGED THEIR SEX FROM MALE TO FEMALE, OR FEMALE TO MALE.<br />
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Question: Why???<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS THERE IS NO WHY TO MINNESOTA MOTIVATIONS.<br />
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Question: What was it like for these individuals who were sex changed?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: How many were sex changed?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. MANY HUNDREDS.<br />
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Question: (Groans). Well, what was Featherfoot’s lecture about?<br />
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ANSWER: CHILDISH DIRTY JOKES INVOLVING SACRED NAZI PRINCIPLES OF HONOR. THE LECTURE WAS OFTEN INTERRUPTED WHEN FEATHERFOOT’S TWO HEADS FELL TO SQUABBLING WITH EACH OTHER, OR CAME TO PECKING BLOWS.<br />
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Question: So this <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Featherfoot</span> has two heads, and these two heads didn’t seem to get along with each other?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THEY GREW FURIOUS IF ONE INTERRUPTED THE OTHER. THEY PECKED AT EACH OTHER WITH SHARP BEAKS, DRAWING BLOOD. OCCASIONALLY THEY BELCHED FIRE AT EACH OTHER‘S HEAD. THEY SHOOK THEIR HEADS VIGOROUSLY TO PUT OUT THE FLAMES.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Featherfoot</span> sounds like some kind of irrational nightmare. What do you think, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: AT ONE POINT THE LONGS NECKS OF FEATHERFOOT’S HEADS TWISTED AROUND EACH OTHER AS THEY ATTEMPTED TO STRANGLE EACH OTHER. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHRFOOT</span> WAS BROUGHT LOW, FALLING INTO THE CROWD, CRUSHING PEOPLE, BUT IT RECOVERED ITS COMPOSURE.<br />
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Question: It sounds like they bore more animosity toward each other than the Nazis. Did they even have time to deliver their lecture?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THEY LECTURED. THEY CALLED FORTH SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS FOR PARTICULAR PERSONAL ABUSE OF THE MOST DEGRADING KIND.<br />
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Question: Well, were these individuals people of any special quality or position? Were any of them members of the secretive ruling oligarchy?<br />
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ANSWER: POSSIBLY.<br />
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Question: How long did this lunacy go on?<br />
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ANSWER: THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. AT THE SIGHT OF DAWN, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">FEATHERFOOT</span> STRODE FORWARD TO EAT SEVERAL HUNDRED NAZIS. SOMETIMES ITS TWO HEADS FOUGHT BITTERLY OVER A MAN, PULLING HIM APART. THEY OFTEN CAME TO BLOWS. AS DAYLIGHT GREW, IT ASCENDED INTO THE DEMON MOON, AND IT LEFT THE NAZI REALM.<br />
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Question: Did the Nazi’s run in terror as <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Featherfoot</span> grazed among them like they were a human Nazi salad bar?<br />
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ANSWER: SALAD BAR? NO, THE NAZI’S WERE HELD AS IF IN WAKING TRANCE. BUT THEY WEPT AND SCREAMED IN TERROR.<br />
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Question: So where did the demon go after this dreadful night of terrorizing, eating and sex changing Nazis?<br />
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ANSWER: IN TWO DAYS TIME IS WAS SCENE AGAIN ABOVE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>. IT’S FOLLOWED ITS COURSE INTO MINNESOTA, WHEREUPON IT WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN.<br />
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Question: Quite the lesson for Nazi technologists and there bold attempts to spy on Minnesota from space? This devastating physical and psychological attack must have brought Nazi society to its knees, am I correct?<br />
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ANSWER: FOR A TIME. BUT THERE WERE STILL HORRORS TO BE DEALT WITH ON KRUPP ISLAND.<br />
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Question: Right, right. I think we have had enough horror for one session. We say good-bye for now, Dr. 58. Thank you.<br />
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ANSWER: VERY WELL.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-91793855621901623992010-05-07T12:43:00.001-05:002010-06-23T17:19:47.747-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 18Question: So how did the situation on Krupp Island play out?<br />
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ANSWER: ALL WAS SILENT ON THE ISLAND. ALL WERE PRESUMED DEAD. THE NAZI WAR SHIPPED SATURATED THE ISLAND WITH TAMMY GAS.<br />
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Question: I’m not even going to ask what <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">tammy</span> gas is. But how did they do this? I can guess why, to make sure everything was dead on the island, man or abomination. <br />
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ANSWER: THEY LAUNCHED CASKS FROM SHIP TO SPREAD TAMMY ACROSS KRUPP. EVERYTHING DIED, INCLUDING TREES, PLANTS, BIRDS, EVERYTHING.<br />
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Question: What did they do next?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE. THEY PUT ASHORE ELITE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">KRUN</span> IRREGULARS TO INVESTIGATE THE DOME COMPLEX.<br />
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Question: I’m also not going to ask about <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Krun</span> Irregulars! So anyway, the science facilities on the island designed to receive satellite data was a dome complex, or a series of domes?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Why do you say this was a terrible mistake, to send in <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Krun</span> Irregulars?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE ISLAND. THEY SHOULD HAVE PETITIONED THE THRALLDOM FOR SINGLE STONE TO LEVEL KRUPP WITH IRRESISTIBLE FORCE. INSTEAD, THEY CHOOSE TO INVESTIGATE.<br />
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Question: I’m going to guess they found something not very fun inside the domes, correct?<br />
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ANSWER: THE ENTRANCE TO THE MAIN DOME WAS FUSED SHUT. THE NAZI’S EXPLODED AN OPENING, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">WHEREFROM</span> A TORRENT OF BLOOD RUSHED FORTH, WASHING BACK THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">KRUN</span>.<br />
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Question: Wow, that would be a lot of blood, presumably more than could be produced by bleeding a few hundred Nazis. More Minnesota deviltry, I presume?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, BUT WORSE, AS THE NAZI TROOPS ATTEMPTED TO RECOVER FROM THE BLOOD WASH, MOTH-LOOKS FLUTTERED OUT, EACH SETTLING ON THE HEAD OF A NAZI. THEY COULD DRILL THROUGH THEIR HELMETS.<br />
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Question: (Sigh.) Okay, I have to ask about Moth-Looks. What exactly are these Moth-Looks? I know what a moth is, but what is a ‘look’, or what do you mean by that?<br />
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ANSWER: A <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">DEMI</span>-MYTH. A PERSON-LOOK IS A SMALL PERSON CREATURE. BUT THESE BORE PART MOTH, PART HUMAN-LOOK. THEY WERE NOT PERSON-LOOKS, BUT MOTH-LOOKS.<br />
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Question: So they were like little <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">mothmen</span>, of sorts?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY WERE MOTH-LOOKS.<br />
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Question: Is the term “look” applied because these creatures resemble humans?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. THEY DON’T APPEAR AS MEN OR WOMEN, BUT AS PERSON LOOKING, I SUPPOSE.<br />
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Question: Well what do you mean they could drill through the metal of Nazi helmets?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MOTH-LOOKS BORE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">INSECTILE</span> STINGERS. THESE THEY DRILLED INTO THE HEADS OF THE NAZIS, WITH OR WITHOUT HELMET.<br />
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Question: What did they do, feast on their brains?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. THIS WAS A METHOD TO CONTROL EACH MAN. TO RIDE THEM.<br />
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Question: Can you explain a bit more what you mean here?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MOTH-LOOKS INSERTED THEIR STING DRILLS INTO THE BRAINS OF THE NAZI’S AND THEREBY GAINED CONTROL OF THEM.<br />
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Questions: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Yeesh</span>, so what did they make the Nazi’s do, dance a jig, or something?<br />
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ANSWER: THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE GREAT TROLL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EXEQUY</span>.<br />
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Question: <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Exequy</span>? You mean as in a funeral rite? Who was the funeral for?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME SORT OF TROLL KING.<br />
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Question: (Sighs of exasperation). I have no idea where this is going. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Noooooooo</span> idea. I’m not even sure what to ask next. Who or what was this Troll King and why did he need a funeral there on Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. THE NAZI WERE FORCED TO PERFORM IT BY THE MOTH-LOOKS.<br />
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Question: Um, so these Nazi <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Krun</span> troops that were taken over by the moth-looks, what did they do after each was being controlled by their moth-look controller?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY FORMED TWO LINES OUTSIDE THE HOLE IN THE DOME. THEY RAISED THEIR WEAPONS AS IN HONOR. FROM THE OPENING CAME FORTH A LONG PROCESSION OF NAZI TECHNOCRATS, ALL RIDDEN BY MOTH-LOOKS.<br />
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Question: Okay, um, <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">jeepers</span>, what to ask next? What to ask? Well, was this like some kind of ceremonial procession? And you say this was a Troll <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Exequy</span>. Where was this dead troll?<br />
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ANSWER: THE FINAL 30 NAZI’S TO EMERGE CARRIED UPON THEIR SHOULDERS A GIANT TROLL KING RESTING UPON A GILDED CATAFALQUE.<br />
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Question: A troll king? How do you know it was a king?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DEAD TROLL WAS THE HEIGHT OF TWO MEN. IT WAS ARRAYED IN JEWELED CROWN AND RESPLENDENT ARMOR. IN ONE ARM RESTED A <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="SCEPTOR">SCEPTER</span>, IN THE OTHER A SWORD. <br />
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Question: Pretty spiffy outfit, especially for a troll! But of course, we’re talking troll royalty here, albeit dead troll royalty. I wonder how it died? Wait, just tell us what happens next. So thing bring out this dead troll kind on a splendid catafalque -- what did they do? Conduct some kind of funeral, or <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">exequy</span> as you say?<br />
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ANSWER: THIS BEGAN A THREE-DAY CEREMONIAL <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EXEQUY</span>.<br />
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Question: Well, what did they do all this time? What happened after they first brought the dead troll king out?<br />
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ANSWER: ON THE FIRST DAY WAS THE PRECESSION. UNDER COMMAND OF THE MOTH-LOOKS, THE NAZI’S PREPARED TORCHES AND BEGAN A CIRCUMNAVIGATION OF KRUPP ISLAND.<br />
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Question: You mean they carried the catafalque of the troll king around the island in some kind of ceremonial parade, while carrying lighted torches?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. SOME RAN AHEAD TO LAY PALM FRONDS AT THE FEET OF THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EXEQUY</span> MARCHERS.<br />
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Question: And the Nazi’s out on the ships. They just stood by, out at sea, and watched this bizarre drama unfold?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THEY FEARED TAKING ANY ACTION.<br />
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Question: But they shot those other guys that ran for the beach and begged for help. Why didn’t they do the same for these poor technocrats and soldiers who were being put through so much horrible torture?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI SHIPS HAD PROBLEMS. THEY LOST POWER.<br />
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Question: How many ships were surrounding Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: So they were adrift then? Were their engines or power sources killed by some kind of Minnesota meddling?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: But they had blanketed Krupp with some kind of deadly gas before they sent their elite forces in. Couldn’t they at least launch another volley of that stuff and kill all those poor Moth-Look ridden <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">clooks</span>? (Note: If you’ll remember, ‘Clook’ is Dr. 58’s word for what we would call a zombie).<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S NO LONGER WANTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH KRUPP AND WERE ONLY CONCERNED WITH LEAVING. AFTER ALL, THEIR GAS HAD NOT KILLED THE MOTH-LOOKS.<br />
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Question: Yes, yes, that’s a good point. Again, I have to ask, how do you know so much detailed information about what went on in this remote corner of the planet. All this from defectors, as you say?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE, AFTER KRUPP THE NAZI SHIPS WERE FORCED TOWARD THE AMERICAS. THEY SAILED THROUGH THE DELTA OF DREAD, UP THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">GRADITCH</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span> AND WERE SWALLOWED BY MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute! This makes little sense for a number of reasons! First, how does this answer my previous question -- how you know so much detail about the events on Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: ONE OF THE SHIPS WAS TOO LARGE TO NAVIGATE THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHAX</span>. IT GROUNDED. THE NAZIS ABOARD MANAGED ESCAPE INTO AMERICA WHERE THEY BEGGED ASYLUM OR WENT <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">SOCMAL</span>.<br />
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Question: And so they had many tales to tell on the streets of America, am I right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY.<br />
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<em>(Note: I was going to ask you how naval vessels of some size could have navigated the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>-- of course, in our world the river does accommodate rather large water craft, but I don’t think it would handle warships because of the different way they are built from river barges, and smaller ships. Then again, I have no idea how big these ships were. But at least one did run aground, as Dr. 58 states, so I decided not to get too bogged down by this. I also wondered how the sailors were able to cope with the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span> as they escaped from their grounded ship, which I assume was still surrounded by the enchanted waters of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, but maybe I can get those details later, too, or maybe the waters of the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Graditch</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span> are not always so tricky, dangerous or deadly, or whatever. It‘s so difficult to stay on track and not get bogged down with a million details!).</em><br />
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Question: Well, I would like to know how is that the Nazi ships got their power back and then sailed for the Delta of Dread and up the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Chax</span>, and why, but let’s finish with Krupp. So Moth-Look <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">clooks</span> were marching a giant Troll King around in some kind of procession of honor? Where did this bizarre ceremony end up?<br />
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ANSWER: THE CIRCUMNAVIGATION WAS COMPLETE AT SUNDOWN. THE MOTH-LOOK <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span> <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="SLAUGHTED">SLAUGHTERED</span> THE 30 MEN WHO HAD BORN THE TROLL KING -- AND THE CEREMONIAL FEAST BEGAN.<br />
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Question: (Mega groans!) <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">Ay</span>-<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">yi</span>-<span class="goog-spellcheck-word">yi</span>! They killed the pall bearers and then used them in a cannibalistic feast? Please, Dr. 58! Say it isn’t so!<br />
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ANSWER: WHY? LARGE FIRE PITS WERE BUILT. WOOD WAS BROUGHT. THE NAZI TECHNOCRATS WERE ROASTED OVER OPEN FLAMES, UPON CLEVERLY FASHIONED ROTISSERIES.<br />
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Question: Yum! Human flesh on a spit! A feast fit for a dead king! Please don’t tell us they were slathered with some kind of <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="barbeque">barbecue</span> sauce! <br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="BARBEQUE">BARBECUE</span>. RIDDEN BY THE MOTH-LOOKS, ALL FEASTED WITH OBVIOUS RELISH.<br />
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Question: Did they also pass around flagons of mead, drink deeply, and offer up lusty toasts to the dead king?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU.<br />
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Question: Forget about it. So how long did this feast go on?<br />
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ANSWER: THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. AT DAWN A BIZARRE CEREMONY WAS PERFORMED. THE BONES OF THE DEAD WERE OFFERING TO THE RISING SUN. THEN BEGAN THE GAMES.<br />
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Question: Okay, we’ll bite! We’re just tagging along for the loony Dr. 58 ride here! Don’t tell me a game of Pepper Ball broke out!<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S DON’T PLAY PEPPER BALL. THE MOTH-LOOKS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span> CONDUCTED FOOT RACES, FEATS OF GRAPPLING, SWORD FIGHTS, KICK FIGHTING, AND MORE.<br />
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Question: So they feasted on man-flesh all night and then played games all day? Didn’t these guys ever need to rest?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Did the other <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">clooks</span> seems to enjoy the festive games?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH CHEERING. WHEN A <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOK</span> KILLED ANOTHER IN GRAPPLE, OR CUT OFF ANOTHER’S HEAD WITH SWORD, THERE WERE ROARS OF APPROVAL FROM THE ONLOOKERS.<br />
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Question: So the games went on for the day. This is the second day of events. Were many people killed in the games?<br />
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ANSWER: MANY. THEY SUPPLIED THE FEAST OF THE SECOND NIGHT.<br />
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Question: How many poor souls took place in these gruesome <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">exequy</span> ceremonies?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE WERE MANY, PERHAPS 200.<br />
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Question: So while all these games and feasting went on, the Troll King in state, presumably in some exalted location. After all, this was all in honor of this death, correct?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE CATAFALQUE HAD BEEN RAISED TO PLACE THE DEAD TROLL KING IN STANDING POSITION, AS IF TO WATCH THE EVENTS.<br />
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Question: So another night of feasting, what happened on the following morning?<br />
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ANSWER: AGAIN THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION OF BONES TO THE SUN, AND THEN BEGAN THE ADORATION OF THE FALLEN KING.<br />
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Question: What was this all about?<br />
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ANSWER: A LINE WAS FORMED. ALL WAITED THEIR TURN TO KNEEL AT THE FEET OF THE DEAD KING, WHERE THEY WAILED, PRAYED AND <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="EXPOSULATED">EXPOSTULATED</span> AT GREAT LENGTH, TELLING TALES OF HEROIC GLORY CONCERNING THE KING.<br />
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Question: What language were they speaking?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT THE NAZI TECHNO TONGUE, BUT THE POETIC GATE OF THE REICH.<br />
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Question: Do the Nazi’s have different forms of language for different sectors of society, or what? For example, what is this Nazi techno tongue?<br />
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ANSWER: THE NAZI’S DEVELOPED A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR TECHNICAL PURSUITS. IT IS NOT THE COMMON TONGUE OF THE REICH, BUT FOR TECHNOCRATS.<br />
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Question: Do you know what the native tongue of the Reich is called?<br />
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ANSWER: I’M NOT AN EXPERT BUT I THINK IT IS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ARAN</span>.<br />
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Question: Maybe you mean Aryan?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: So how long did each Moth-Look ridden Nazi expound at the feet of the dead king?<br />
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ANSWER: UNTIL ALL WERE SATISFIED. IF THE SUBJECT DID NOT SHOW PROPER GRIEF, OR WEEP AND WAIL EXTRAVAGANTLY ENOUGH, HE WAS BEATEN BY THE OTHERS UNTIL HE DID.<br />
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Question: So we’re on, like, the third day of this magnificent send-off for the Troll King. Now, Krupp is an island near the earth’s equator, right. It must have been fairly hot, with the sun beating down. Was the Troll King starting to rot, or did his body seemed preserved in some way?<br />
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ANSWER: THE TROLL WAS ROTTING. FLESH BEGAN TO PEEL AWAY AND OOZE, AND THIS PROMPTED THE NEXT CEREMONIAL EVENT.<br />
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Question: Dare I ask?<br />
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ANSWER: WHY NOT? YOU ARE A FONT OF QUESTIONS.<br />
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Question: I was speaking rhetorically, but forget about that. Was the next event?<br />
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ANSWER: THE FEASTING UPON THE FLESH OF THE KING. EACH MOTH-LOOK <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOK</span> PARTOOK OF THE BODY OF THE KING. AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF SILENT CONTEMPLATION, THEY GATHERED TO PERFORM THE FINAL REQUIEM.<br />
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Question: What was this?<br />
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ANSWER: THE REMAINING <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span> FORMED A CHOIR AND SANG A SOARING THRENODY OF LAMENT. THOSE ON THE NAZI SHIPS WHO COULD HEAR SAID THE VERY AIR SEEMED TO DIE AND SEA ITSELF MOURNED AT THE EMOTION OF THE DIRGE.<br />
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Question: Was the <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">exequy</span> finally over?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, AFTER SINGING THE THRENODY OF <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="MOURING">MOURNING</span>, THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span> FELL TO THE GROUND AND WEPT BITTERLY. AS THEY DID SO, THE KING AWOKE.<br />
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Question: !!!!?????What!!!????<br />
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ANSWER: THE TROLL KING AWOKE FROM THE DEAD. HE STEPPED AWAY FROM HIS CATAFALQUE AND BEGAN TO EXPRESS HIS RAGE AT THE INFERIOR QUALITY OF THE THREE-DAY CEREMONY.<br />
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Question: So he wasn’t dead after all, after all this time? I thought you said his flesh was rotting?<br />
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ANSWER: HE WAS DEAD BUT RETURNED TO LIFE. <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="WEILDING">WIELDING</span> HIS SWORD, HE ROARED IN ANGER AND EXCORIATED THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CLOOKS</span> FOR THEIR LACK OF EMOTION AND <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="INSINERITY">INSINCERITY</span> DISPLAYED DURING HIS <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EXEQUY</span>.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! I can’t stand it, Dr. 58! You’re either a comic genius, or you’re insane!<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU.<br />
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Question: Oh brother, so what did this newly arisen Troll King (arisen on the third day, no less) do next? Start hacking all these guys with his sword?<br />
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ANSWER: UPON THE RAGE OF THE RISEN KING, THE MOTH-LOOKS ABANDONED THEIR HOSTS. THEY FLUTTERED UP AWAY FROM THE RAGING KING, AND BEGAN <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">CHITTERING</span> WITH THEIR ODD, THRUMMING INSECT VOICES, STILL SPEAKING <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">ARAN</span>.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! What were they saying?<br />
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ANSWER: THEY LAID ALL BLAME ON THEIR FORMER HOSTS FOR WHAT WAS LACKING IN THE <span class="goog-spellcheck-word">EXEQUY</span>. THEY CLAIMED THE NAZI’S HAD BEEN MENTALLY RESISTING.<br />
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Question: Ha! Ha! Classic! Ha! Ha! L-o-o-o-v-i-n-g it, Dr 58!<br />
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ANSWER: YOU SEEM GHOULISH TO ME, SOMETIMES.<br />
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Question: Ohhhhhh…. Sorry, Dr. 58. I don’t mean to be ghoulish. But, sometimes it’s hard to take you seriously. Are you being serious with this story?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: So what did the Troll King do? Take out his rage on the Nazi’s, now free of Moth-Look control?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HE CURSED THEM AND TOOK OUT GREAT SWATHS OF THEM WITH SWORD. MOST WERE TOO DEPLETED TO RESIST. SOME <span class="goog-spellcheck-word" goog-spell-original="ESACPED">ESCAPED</span> INTO THE SEA, WHERE THEY DROWNED.<br />
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(I’ll stop there for now …)IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-14857211662057230412010-05-06T19:54:00.000-05:002010-08-01T19:55:24.944-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 19<strong>(So here we pick up pretty much where we left off, with some preliminaries eliminted ...)</strong><br />
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Question: So how is it that Nazi ships were forced to sail for the Graditch Chax? <br />
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ANSWER: IT IS ONLY KNOWN THAT THEY DID SO.<br />
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Question: What happened to the resurrected Troll King and any survivors on Krupp?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. KRUPP IS AVOIDED NOW.<br />
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Question: Could the Troll King and his minions still be there?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS GENERALLY BELIEVED THAT WHICH HAS ITS ORIGIN INSIDE MINNESOTA CANNOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MINNESOTA FOR LONG.<br />
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Question: Yes, you said this before. So the hope was that anything remaining on Krupp just went away on its own, and at any rate, Krupp was now a burned out cinder island of toxicity and terror in a remote area of the ocean?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: So you say one of the Nazi ships ran aground in the Graditch Chax. Did the surviving sailors have to swim the Chax to get to shore and safety?<br />
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ANSWER: OBVIOUSLY.<br />
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Question: So this shows, at least, that one can encounter the waters of the Chax, even swim in them, and survive, right?<br />
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ANSWER: SURVIVE, YES. <br />
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Question: Do you have something more to say?<br />
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ANSWER: SOME OF THEM TURNED UP IN AMERICAN SOCIETY, SOME OF THEM TOLD THEIR STORY AT SOCMAL CONCLAVES. BUT THEY WERE TOUCHED.<br />
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<em>(Note: I Have briefly mentioned the subject of the conclaves before, but as a reminder, this is the primary way that news is spread in American society. People gather at ongoing public forums, which are called “conclaves.” They operate basically informally, and 24/7 and people come and go as they please. Sometimes, apparently, the conclaves are crowded with people when there is much news, at other times, they are sparsely attended. News of the nation and world is obtained first hand from an ongoing line of speakers or “citizen reporters” who have news to share.)</em><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, what do you mean when you say that those who encountered the waters of the Chax are ‘touched.’?<br />
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ANSWER: WITH ALL MANNER OF MADNESS. MALADJUSTMENTS. SOME BECOME ACOLYTES OF OLD CAVE.<br />
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Question: How interesting. So this Old Cave, the former Father Reston Vromin, seems to be quite a remarkable individual. He almost certainly spent a number of years in Minnesota were he lost his faith. On the other hand, he seems to have somehow assimilated his experience, and was able to become a wise teacher of sorts, if also slightly mad, correct?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And what you’re saying is that people, such as those poor Nazi’s who were so traumatized on Krupp, and then encountered the enchanted waters of the Graditch Chax, were able to come to Father Vromin for some kind of help is living out the rest of their lives, despite being touched by the ultimate strangeness of Minnesota power?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY.<br />
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Question: What happened to the Nazi naval vessel that grounded in the Graditch Chax?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS BELIEVED THAT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OBSERVED IT FROM AFAR WITH POWERFUL OPTICS. THE SHIP IS GONE NOW, BUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SUBJECT OF MUCH RUMOR.<br />
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Question: What are one of the rumors surrounding the disappearance of the ship from the Chax?<br />
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ANSWER: THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THE TRUTH BUT DOES NOT TELL. THE RUMOR IS THAT THE SHIP WAS DISMANTLED BY IMPS AND CARRIED PIECE-BY-PIECE INTO MINNESOTA.<br />
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Question: Imps, you say? What are those?<br />
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ANSWER: IMPS.<br />
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Question: Okay. But this is mostly rumor anyway?<br />
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ANSWER: OLD CAVE SAYS THAT REFINED METALS ARE OF EXTREME VALUE IN SOME PARTS OF MINNESOTA. THEY DON’T HAVE REFINED METAL.<br />
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Question: Does Old Cave speak of encounters with Imps?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: They don’t have refined metals in Minnesota? You mean like steel, or copper or gold or silver?<br />
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ANSWER: WHAT EXISTS WITHIN MINNESOTA IS BROUGHT IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.<br />
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Question: Is this what Father Vromin, excuse me, Old Cave, says?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. THE REFINING OF METALS IS TECHNOLOGICAL. MINNESOTA IS NOT TECHNOLOGICAL.<br />
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Question: Well, does this know-it-all Father Vromin, AKA Old Cave, know why refined metals are so valuable in Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE ARE ASPECTS OF SOCIETY INSIDE MINNESOTA THAT FAVOR THE ACQUISITION OF REFINED METALS.<br />
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Question: Why?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: So that’s interesting when you say there are ’aspect of society’ inside Minnesota. To this point, we have had the impression that whatever goes on inside Minnesota is like some gigantic, all-encompassing irrational nightmare. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER: THERE ARE ASPECTS OF RATIONAL SOCIETY INSIDE MINNESOTA, ACCORDING TO OLD CAVE, AND OTHERS.<br />
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Question: Like what, for example? <br />
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ANSWER: OLD CAVE SAYS THERE ARE ORGANIZED SOCIETIES, VILLAGES, FORTIFIED COMPOUNDS, FORTS, CASTLES KEEPS, AND MORE.<br />
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Question: Wow, that sounds intriguing. And are these organized societies populated with human beings, or what?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. OLD CAVE SAID MINNESOTA HAS PEOPLE, MORE HUMAN PEOPLE THAN OTHER SPECIES OF BEINGS.<br />
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Question: I wonder, does Old Cave happen to carry a staff?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Ho, ho! I bet that Old Cave at one time encountered a member of the Staff Guild while he was in Minnesota, perhaps even Gefraim, whom you and I have had a conversation with. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.<br />
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Question: Have you ever asked Old Cave about meeting a member of the Staff Guild?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Just how well do you know Old Cave, Dr. 58. Are you a good friend, or a member of his inner circle?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. I ATTEND HIS LECTURES, OR LISTEN TO HIS STREET RAVINGS. I HAVE BEEN TO SOME SECRET SOCMAL TEACHINGS.<br />
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Question: I’m wondering, would it be possible for me to speak with Old Cave?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.<br />
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Question: Well, could you bring him to wherever you have this super secret Hassas Grid contraption set up, I presume in some illegal back-alley warehouse somewhere?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.<br />
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Question: Forget it. Anyway, I must say, you seem to be growing a bit bolder, Dr. 58. I can imagine that just admitting that you went to a secret socmal meeting with Old Cave is highly illegal. When we first started speaking, you often expressed your fear over the illegality of even speaking of this kind of thing? What do you say?<br />
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ANSWER: I NOW THINK IT DOUBTFUL THE GOVERNMENT CAN ACCESS THE HASSAS GRID.<br />
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Question: What makes you think that?<br />
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ANSWER: EXPERIENCE.<br />
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Question: Old Cave must be rather bold as well. For someone who is not supposed to say anything about Minnesota, and for someone who it would seem is at a great risk of being imprisoned for going to Minnesota, he seems the source of a lot of information about all this, right?<br />
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ANSWER. OLD CAVE SPEAKS CAREFULLY. HE CAN SPEAK OF MINNESOTA WITHOUT MENTION OF THE NAME. <br />
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Question: But certainly any smart government spy would be able to figure this out? Also, he must attract some attention if he is so well known that others, like the Nazis, for example, who seek him out for help in dealing with Minnesota experiences. What do you say, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU ARE NOT A COMPLEX THINKER. <br />
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Question: What do you mean?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU DO NOT THINK IN COMPLEXITY. THE GOVERNMENT CERTAINLY KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT OLD CAVE, PERHAPS THEY USE HIM TO THEIR OWN ENDS.<br />
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Question: Ah! I underestimate you, Dr. 58! Yes, you think like a chess player! Always several moves ahead! So what you’re saying is, the government probably is well aware of the entire truth about Father Reston Vromin, yet they allow him a certain leeway to ply his trade, so to speak, and they monitor him so that they also can learn inside information they need about strange goings on. Right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And as I think about this further, I can imagine that since Old Cave is such a magnet for certain people -- mostly socmals who get into Minnesota trouble -- government agents can more easily identify socmal trouble makers lurking in society, if they give Old Cave some space, right?<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS.<br />
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Question: Would you say your American government is oppressive, Dr. 58?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, ONLY WATCHFUL.<br />
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Question; Watchful of what? That having to do with Minnesota mostly?<br />
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ANSWER: OF MINNESOTA AND OTHER SOCMAL TROUBLE, AND FOREIGN SPIES.<br />
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Question: Well, the Americans of your world have achieved something that seems nothing less than spectacularly remarkable, in my opinion. They somehow have managed to form an organized country with the most dangerous, ancient and powerful mystery in the world right within their border -- and they have managed to live in a kind of stasis with this … thing … in their midst.<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Anyway, I think the word you choose for the Nazi satellite incidents -- the word disaster, doesn’t quite do the whole thing justice. This turned out to more than a disaster, but a gigantic debacle of the highest order, would you agree? And mostly psychologically I would think?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: I can see how these incidents must have brought the Nazi regime to its knees. Did it?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU COULD SAY THAT. NAZI GLOBAL POWER WAS DEVASTATED. THEY WERE REQUIRED TO TURN INWARD TO REPAIR THEIR SOCIETY.<br />
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Question: Yes, and the very central element of Nazi culture -- technological determinism -- must have suffered a scathing blow. I mean, these events showed the very real limits to what technology could achieve in the face of powerful forces of the unknown, am I correct?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY.<br />
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Question: Had Nazi power been on the rise in recent years?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEIR PURGE OF THE EBURNEANS. THEY GAINED GREAT POWER.<br />
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Question: Ah, back to them. Dr. 58, we are very tired now, but perhaps next we can talk about this pogrom the Nazis served upon the Eburneans -- which you say had something to do with some kind of “flood of horrors” involving the Graditch Chax, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Okay, well thank you then, Dr. 58. Bye for now.<br />
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ANSWER: GOOD-BYE.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-55204558196302949162010-05-05T20:03:00.001-05:002010-08-01T20:05:44.507-05:00Dr. 58 - Session 20 (We speak with MOMMY)Question: Mommy? Will you speak with us, please?<br />
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ANSWER: MOMMY IS HERE FOR YOU, PRECIOUS.<br />
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Question: Hello Mommy! Mommy, I’ll get right to it -- just who or what the hell is this Father Reston Vromin? I mean, good lord, what manner of being is he! It would be difficult for me to believe he is human. Is he?<br />
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ANSWER: I WOULD SAY, HONEY, THAT THERE IS AN ASPECT TO HIS BEING THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY HUMAN.<br />
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Question: Did he start out as a human being in his universe, the Dr. 58 Universe, so to speak?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: What happened to him in Minnesota?<br />
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ANSWER: FATHER VROMIN CONFRONTED THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES, AND THEREBY WAS TRANSFORMED THROUGH ITS AGENCY.<br />
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Question: Mommy, when I confronted Father Vromin in the Trans-Dream State last night -- I was astonished! It’s difficult to describe. I have never encountered anything like it (or him) before. It seems like I was lost inside “It” for hours -- yet almost none of it I could understand -- and for a while, I wondered if I would ever be released from it. And yet, the Father Vromin Entity seems neither hostile or benign. Am I correct?<br />
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ANSWER: OF COURSE, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Father Vromin no longer has ego-based consciousness does he, even for every day common use?<br />
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ANSWER: FATHER VROMIN CAN MIMIC EGO-BASED CONSCIOUSNESS SO AS TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIS PEOPLE.<br />
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Question: That seems so bizarre to me, Mommy. Doesn’t the fact that he mimics an ego, in effect, create an ego in and of itself?<br />
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ANSWER: IN A SENSE, HONEY, BUT HIS EGO IS SUBJECT TO THE MANIPULATIONS OF HIS OVERALL CONSCIOUSNESS.<br />
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Question: Mommy, my intuitive sense is that Father Reston Vromin is a Hive Mind -- and yet, a Hive Mind of a different order -- A Hyper-Hive Mind -- that is, a Hive Mind that can transcend the individual focus of ego-based consciousness. Am I on the right track?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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ANSWER: To help me understand, bare with me, Mommy. Let’s say there is a hive of bees. Each bee has hive mind, a kind of group mind. None of them are individuals as much as they are a cooperative member of a group. Now, if one of the bees could somehow magically achieve self-reflective consciousness and suddenly develop an individually crystallized ego, that bee would have a tremendous crisis because, suddenly, it would see itself not only as an individual, but as somehow different from the rest of his or her society. Do you follow me, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, DEAR.<br />
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Question: But if the ego bee was strong and very smart, it would have a tremendous advantage over its hive-minded family because it would be able to “see” things in a way that the rest of the group thinkers could not, right? It could think for itself as an individual. And for another thing, it would have to power to shape its own destiny because it would not have to always go along with the group. But there would also be great danger because not going along with the group would put it at odds with the rest of its society, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY, BUT DON’T FORGET THAT THE EGO-BEE WOULD STILL ALSO HAVE HIVE MIND AT THE SAME TIME AS EGO MIND.<br />
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Question: Right, so if the new Ego Bee could assimilate his newly formed individuality as self reflective being, while at the same time, maintain his Hive Mind, he might be able to have the best of both worlds, right?<br />
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ANSWER: POSSIBLY, DARLING. OR THE WORSE OF BOTH WORLDS. OR A PERMUTATION.<br />
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Question: And its tempting to say that Ego Mind is “higher” than Hive Mind, but in a sense, that’s a false value judgment, right, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY. MIND CANNOT BE PULLED APART.<br />
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Question: So you have often said, thank you, Mommy. Yet, and just so we understand each other, Mommy, I can speak of terms in “higher” or “lower” in terms of mind form, knowing that I am not being fooled by a false distinction. Having said that, let me make an observation: Take a plant, for example. We all know the root of the plant must be “below” in the ground, and that the stem of the plant is “higher” than the root, and that the blossom on top is “higher” than all below it. As you say of mind, it cannot be “pulled apart.” In the same fashion, then, I cannot “pull apart” a plant -- I cannot separate the “lower” root from the stem without killing the entire organism. Is my metaphor fair in terms of comparison to mind?<br />
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ANSWER: YOU ARE SO SWEET, HONEY. I THINK YOU DO WELL IN YOUR WAY.<br />
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Question: I’ll take that for now, thank you, Mommy. So is it fair to say that Ego Mind in human beings rests upon Hive Mind, and just as it would be ridiculous to flip the plant to put the roots in the air and the blossom underground, it would be ridiculous to flip Ego Mind and Hive Mind, am I still okay?<br />
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ANSWER: REASONABLY WELL, DARLING.<br />
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Question: But then, here is my amazement and conundrum with the case of Father Reston Vromin. I am almost certain that Father Vromin is now essentially a Hive Mind, but as I said, he “feels” to me like a Hyper-Hive Mind -- a superior form of Hive Mind that would transcend Ego Mind -- do you see what I mean? In a sense, he seems to have come full circle. Before he went to Minnesota, I assume he had a normal ego-based personality. Like all human beings, his ego rests upon the vestigial hive mind that all of us human beings have, from our past in the days before the ego developed. Again, I'm speaking on common terms because I know the mind cannot be pulled apart, as you say.<br />
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But then, somehow, Father Reston Vromin, through his study of the Verdantic Mysteries, was able to transcend both his ego state, going to a “higher state” -- and yet this “higher state” is another form of Hive Mind, which I would call Hyper-Hive Mind, or perhaps, Hive II. How am I doing Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: GOOD, SWEETHEART.<br />
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Question: So in our world, a human being, say, a Zen monk who has meditated can achieve a state of mind that is “above” Ego Mind, to achieve enlightenment, or transcendence. So to form a simple diagram of his consciousness, he might be: Hive-Ego-Transcended. What do you say, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: THIS DIAGRAM WOULD BE ACCURATE WITHIN A LIMITED FRAMEWORK.<br />
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Question: And yet, Father Reston Vromin’s mind would be diagramed this way: Hive-Ego-Hyper Hive. Different from the ordinary trans-ego, or enlightened human being in my world, right?<br />
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ANSWER: IN A SENSE, HON.<br />
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Question: Well, let me ask you this. There must be different forms of trans-ego consciousness then, right? I mean, those who transcend the ego in my world describe the experience as a kind of “Oneness” or a “Timeless Wholeness.” Not a Hyper-Hive type of mind at all, which is not “whole” but multiple. It just seems to me, then, that there could be a ego-transcendent state of mind that is of the Hive variety, rather than of a Singular Wholeness variety. What do you say, Mommy?<br />
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ANSWER: VARIATION IN THE UNIVERSE IS INFINITE.<br />
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Question: Wow! This is just so fun and interesting, I am squirming with delight! You’re wonderful, Mommy!<br />
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ANSWER: THANK YOU, SWEETHEART.<br />
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Question: So, Mommy, let me ask you this. I have certainly confronted entities before with Hive Mind before, such as the Love Beings. Almost certainly, since they are a “Group Being" they function with some kind of Hive Mind, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, HONEY.<br />
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Question: And remember when you connected me with the Neanderthals? They had a Hive Mind as well, correct?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: But now I realize that the “quality” of the Neanderthal Hive Mind was much different from the “quality” of the Love beings Hive Mind, right?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And now let me ask you this: If I am ever able to speak with Father Vromin through the Ouija board, how shall I take him? What if he is using his Mimic Ego to communicate with me, with this Mimic Ego having its strings pulled, so to speak, by his Hyper-Hive Mind?<br />
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ANSWER: TAKE HIM AS YOU WILL, DEAR.<br />
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Question: I just thought of something, Mommy. Is it possible that Father Vromin is confused about something? Here is my theory: As a former ego-based Catholic priest and follower of Jesus Christ, and now a person who has found himself catapulted to a new kind of Hyper-Hive Mind -- could he mistakenly be viewing himself as some kind of Christ-like figure, or possibly a Saint? I mean, he has transcended his ordinary ego-based understanding of Christ, and now perhaps, he sees himself as some kind of reincarnation of Christ?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, HONEY, ALTHOUGH YOU ARE NOT COMPLETELY INCORRECT. FATHER VROMIN HAS BECOME ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL AND KNOWLEDGABLE IN THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS PERFECT OR DIVINE.<br />
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Question: But does he know that?<br />
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ANSWER: FATHER VROMIN’S VIEWS ARE VAST AND COMPLEX.<br />
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Question: No doubt. Will it be of value for me to speak with him, even his Mimic Ego, or would it be an exercise in futility?<br />
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ANSWER: SWEETHEART, I THINK YOU CAN DECIDE THAT.<br />
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Question: Thank you, Mommy. I’ll think about this Mommy. One last question, Mommy. What is this “Green Energy” that Father Vromin has? Some of my friends here have pointed out that “Verdantic” seems to come from our words for “spring” or “green.” Does Father Vromin’s Green Energy have some connection to what the Verdantic Mysteries are all about?<br />
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ANSWER: THAT’S NOT FOR YOU, HONEY.<br />
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Question: Ahhhh! I won’t argue with you, Mommy. Thank you, Mommy, and sending fond regards into the Nothing Chamber!<br />
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ANSWER: GOOD-BYE, HONEY.IronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8037886369607564164.post-91239032858223504022010-05-04T16:41:00.001-05:002010-08-16T16:49:46.321-05:00Dr. 58 -- Session 21<strong>And so the Dr. 58 session continue ....</strong><br />
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Question: Dr. 58, before we get into some other issues, many people here find it curious that you use the expression ‘Jesus Christ’ as an expression or surprise or frustration. Is this common in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. IT'S AN EXPRESSION.<br />
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Question: In our world, Christianity is probably the most influential religion in the world, or at least one of the top three most important faiths in the world. How influential would you say Christ is in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. THERE ARE MANY CATHOLICS, BUT THEY ARE SCATTERED. THEY FOLLOW THE PRIMARY AXIOM OF JESUS.<br />
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Question: What is this Primary Axiom of Jesus?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS SAID: TO BE, OR THOUGHT TO BE, THAT IS THE DILEMMA OF EXISTENCE.<br />
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Question: To be or thought to be? !! To be or thought to be? !! Did you actually say, To be or thought to be?? stop it, Dr. 58! We beg of you!<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU.<br />
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Question: (Much groaning and feelings of dismay. Heavy sigh. Plunge ahead). Listen, Dr. 58, you accomplished bullshi**er. In our world, there is a famous poet by the name of William Shakespeare. One of his most famous lines is “To be, or not to be, that is the question.” And now you say the Primary Axiom of Jesus Christ is “To be or thought to be ..." That’s a bit hard for us to take!<br />
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ANSWER: WHY? BARDEMON SHAKESPEARE WAS THE PROPHET OF JESUS.<br />
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Question: What?! Do you actually expect us to believe that? In our world Shakespeare lived more than 1,500 years after the time of Christ. He was a Christian, I suppose, but not a religious figure of any kind. He was a writer and poet. Are you saying that in your world, Jesus and Shakespeare were contemporary figures?<br />
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ANSWER; YES, JESUS WAS BLIND, DEAF AND MUTE, AND SO DID NOT SPEAK. SHAKESPEARE SPOKE FOR HIM.<br />
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Question: Ugh! Although I am loathe to ask you anything concerning time -- since your world seems so confused about the concept of time -- can you tell me when Jesus and his prophet Shakespeare lived?<br />
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ANSWER: IN ANCIENT TIMES. LONG AGO.<br />
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Question: Yeeesh! I almost don’t even know what to ask next. Well, you say Jesus was blind, deaf and mute? So how did he communicate with Shakespeare?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS WAS SAID TO COMMUNICATE PSIONICALLY TO THE ELECT.<br />
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Question: He communicated to his followers with psychic power?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Okay. You said previously that Jesus emerged from the land of Sumer. Where is that in your world?<br />
ANSWER: A DESERT REGION ON THE WESTERN FRINGE OF THE VAST FORLORN.<br />
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Question: What is known about the birth of Jesus?<br />
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ANSWER: HIS MOTHER IS SAID TO BE MARY OF OUTER SPACE.<br />
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Question: Heaven help us. Mary of Outer Space? This is starting to sound like a bad, a very, very bad B movie! Why is she called Mary of Outer Space?<br />
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ANSWER: BECAUSE SHE IS SAID TO HAVE HER ORIGIN OUTSIDE OF THE WHAT THE CHRISTIANS CONSIDER TO BE OUR UNIVERSE, A FALSE THOUGHT UNIVERSE.<br />
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Question: A False Thought Universe? What exactly is that supposed to be?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS MAINTAINED THAT THIS UNIVERSE WAS A FALSE UNIVERSE CONSTRUCTED BY HIS TWIN BROTHER MOTHTET AND THAT ALL ARE ENSLAVED WITHIN.<br />
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Question: His twin brother Mothtet? Was he also blind, deaf and mute?<br />
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ANSWER: AS THE LEGEND GOES, MOTHTET NEVER TOOK HUMAN FORM.<br />
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Question: What was he? Some kind of god?<br />
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ANSWER; I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON CHRISTIAN THOUGHT.<br />
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Question: So this Primary Axiom of Jesus, “To be or to thought to be, that is the dilemma of existence.” This, then, seems to speak to the basic premise that the universe of a false thought construction of Mothtet, and that people must question it, or escape from it, for the sake of their salvation? Is that right?<br />
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ANSWER: I THINK SO. <br />
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Question: So Jesus seems to be saying that people must seek “to be,” in other words, to “be real" rather than be fooled by their entrapment in the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Well, how is it that people -- who are supposedly real -- come to be entrapped within the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS TAUGHT THAT THE TRUE ORIGIN OF MANKIND WAS OUTSIDE THE THOUGHT UNIVERSE, IN OUTER SPACE, THE REALM OF HIS MOTHER MARY.<br />
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Question: Okay, so how do people get trapped in the flypaper of Mothtet?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW FLYPAPER. JESUS SAID THAT THE ORIGIN OF TRUE SELF WAS OF OUTER SPACE.<br />
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Question: So I take it that Jesus agreed to be born and manifest physically inside the False Thought Universe to bring salvation to humankind?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Have you ever heard of Satan or Lucifer?<br />
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ANSWER: I HAVE NOT HEARD OF SATAN. LUCIFER WAS A GREAT ASTRONOMER.<br />
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Question: Uhhhhhhhhh. Was Lucifer a deity of any kind, involved in Christian theology?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, LUCIFER LIVED IN A MUCH LATER CYCLE THAN THAT OF JESUS. HE WAS A BRILLIANT MAN. A GENIUS.<br />
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Question: What was Lucifer’s main achievement?<br />
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ANSWER: THE DELINEATION OF THE NATURE OF STARLIGHT.<br />
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Question: Wow, so Lucifer must be a very important figure in American society, since your culture is fundamentally attuned to starlight, right?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. LUCIFER MADE IMPORTANT DISCOVERIES. <br />
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Question: Is he revered in America?<br />
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ANSWER: HE IS KNOWN AS A GREAT ASTRONOMER. <br />
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Question: Hmmm. Well, getting back to Jesus and Mothtet. I have to say I see many similarities and confluence's with religious thought in our world. For example, Jesus was born physically in our world to save humankind as well -- but this idea of a False Thought Universe sound extremely similar to a completely different religion we have here called Buddhism. Do you have Buddhism in your world.<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW BUDDHISM.<br />
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Question: There was a man in ancient times. His name was Prince Gautama Siddhartha. He was The Buddha, the founder of Buddhist thought and approach. Have you heard of him?<br />
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ANSWER: NO.<br />
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Question: Well, anyway, the Buddha maintained that our world was primarily a great big illusion, similar to the False Thought Universe of Mothtet, and than humans must see through the illusion if they were to escape the suffering of their existence here. What do you think?<br />
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ANSWER: I SEE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN YOUR BUDDHA AND OUR CHRIST.<br />
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Question: Was Jesus crucified in your world?<br />
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ANSWER; I DON'T KNOW CRUCIFIED.<br />
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Question: Well, how did Jesus die in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS DID NOT DIE. HE IS IN STASIS.<br />
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Question: Wow! The same kind of stasis your parents were in?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, JESUS LIVED IN THE TIME BEFORE THE ADVANCES IN STARLIGHT ATTENUATION. HIS STASIS IS OF A DIFFERENT NATURE.<br />
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Question: Well, where is his body, Do you mean he is physically resting in stasis somewhere?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. HE LIES IN STASIS WITHIN THE BLOOD ZIGGURAT OF KEMIT.<br />
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Question: Wow! Can anyone go and view the body of Jesus lying in stasis?<br />
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ANSWER; ONLY THE ASCENDED ELECT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MAY VIEW THE BODY OF JESUS.<br />
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Question: Wow! (must stop saying Wow!). So does the Catholic Church have a Pope and a hierarchy or cardinals and priests, and such?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW POPE. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS MANY PRIESTS.<br />
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Question: Who is the head of the Catholic Church?<br />
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ANSWER: THE MAGDALENE.<br />
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Question: Wow! (There I go again.) You mean like the Mary Magdalene?<br />
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ANSWER: YES. MARY MAGDALENE WAS THE WIFE OF JESUS. <br />
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Question: Wow! So the head of the Catholic Church in your world is a woman!!!<br />
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ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.<br />
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Question: Ha, ha! You don’t know how wild that sounds to us. Anyway, the current Magdalene, this is not the original wife of Jesus also in some kind of stasis, is she?<br />
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ANSWER: NO. SHE IS THE SYMBOLIC WIFE OF JESUS. SHE IS A HUMAN BEING.<br />
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Question: And the Magdalene is appointed for life, and then a new one is chosen when she dies.<br />
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ANSWER: YES<br />
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Question: So Jesus was married? What happened to his wife, which I assume was the original Mary Magdalene?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS ENTERED STASIS. SHE ESTABLISHED HIS CHURCH.<br />
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Question: Did she just die like anyone else?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DIED, OR IF SHE IS DEAD.<br />
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Question: Oh no, there we go again with our argument about the nature of death. Let’s just say she is no longer around and passed into history, okay?<br />
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ANSWER: PERHAPS.<br />
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Question: Now you say Kemit, where this ziggurat is located? I think that’s what some people in our world maintain is the proper name for Egypt, or was an ancient precursor of Egypt. Do you have an Egypt in your world?<br />
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ANSWER: NOT THAT I KNOW.<br />
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Question: Do you have an Africa?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, THERE IS A CONTINENT OF AFRICA.<br />
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Question: Is Kemit in the northeastern portion of the African continent? <br />
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ANSWER: THAT IS PART OF KEMIT. KEMIT IS VAST.<br />
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Question: Ummmm. (What to ask next! This could go in so many directions!) Did Jesus and Mary have children?<br />
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ANSWER: YES, MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE QUINTATUM.<br />
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Question: What is the Quintatum?<br />
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ANSWER: I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD ONCE BEEN A CATHOLIC. YOU DON'T SEEM TO KNOW ANYTHING. THE QUNITATUM WERE THE FIVE SONS OF JESUS, THE FIRST PRIESTS.<br />
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Question: You’re right! I don’t know anything! And I wish I knew even less when I speak with you! Were the Quintatum quintuplets? Do you know what I mean. Were they all born at the same time?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: Total wowsers! And they helped their mother Mary get the church going?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: So they were all males, I assume?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Question: And are there male and female priests?<br />
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ANSWER: NO FEMALES. BY TRADITION OF THE QUINTATUM, ALL PRIESTS ARE MALE.<br />
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Question: Why did Jesus go into stasis, and when is he going to wake up?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS EXACTLY. HE WILL AWAKEN AT AN APPOINTED TIME.<br />
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Question: Is there any question as to whether Jesus really is lying in stasis, or is this some kind of myth concocted by the Church?<br />
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ANSWER: JESUS LIES IN STASIS. IT IS KNOWN.<br />
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Question: But if only the Ascended Elect are allowed to view the body, how does the rest of the world know?<br />
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ANSWER: THE ASCENDED ELECT HAS ALLOWED OTHERS OF SPECIAL NOTE TO VIEW JESUS ON OCCASION TO MAINTAIN THE FAITH.<br />
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Question: You mean non-Catholics of important position, such as a Mayan high official?<br />
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ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.<br />
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Question: Well what is your opinion? Do you really think that Jesus is a godlike figure, the son of Mary of Outer Space -- or is he just a normal human being?<br />
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ANSWER: I GIVE IT LITTLE THOUGHT.<br />
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Question: Okay, what do you think of this concept that you may be entrapped in the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?<br />
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ANSWER: IT IS PROBLEMATIC. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS THE PORTAL.<br />
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Question: Ah yes, the Portal of Cool Assimilation. So you are saying that the Portal leads to a place that is outside the False Thought Universe?<br />
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ANSWER: NO, YOU ASSUME THAT THERE IS A FALSE THOUGHT UNIVERSE.<br />
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Question: Well, I don’t assume that, but you seemed to suggest that the fact that one can pass through the Portal of Cool Assimilation that this would contradict the concept of the False Thought Universe theory, right?<br />
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ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX.<br />
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Question: I’ll say. Look, we have about 5 billion questions, but we simply must rest now. Let’s talk again soon, okay, Dr, 58?<br />
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ANSWER: YES.<br />
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Good-bye.<br />
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GOOD-BYEIronGhosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433614758650158822noreply@blogger.com5